ATL: LARRY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
MarioProtVI
Category 4
Category 4
Posts: 935
Age: 24
Joined: Sun Sep 29, 2019 7:33 pm
Location: New Jersey

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#421 Postby MarioProtVI » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:13 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Wouldn't be totally surprised to see an EWRC take place overnight. HWRF has been hinting that would happen and a massive eye would appear after that.

Appears that’s what occurring as the eye is shrinking.
0 likes   

CrazyC83
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 34002
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:57 pm
Location: Deep South, for the first time!

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#422 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:31 am

Based on the latest trends, I'd assess the current intensity at 110 kt.
2 likes   

User avatar
Yellow Evan
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 16143
Age: 27
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:48 pm
Location: Henderson, Nevada/Honolulu, HI
Contact:

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#423 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:47 am

Really would be nice to have a good microwave pass to how it’s ERC is going. IR has given hints of an ERC through the day but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s inner eyewall was being stubborn.
0 likes   

User avatar
kevin
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2586
Age: 26
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:35 am

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#424 Postby kevin » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:37 am

CrazyC83 wrote:Based on the latest trends, I'd assess the current intensity at 110 kt.


Agreed, I expect the NHC's next update to put Larry at 110 kt. ADT supports 110kt/953mb (CI# 5.8). Also here's the latest IR loop.

Edit: ADT is a bit jumpy now (it jumps around between 5.5 and 5.8) so perhaps 105kt is a better estimate for now.

Last edited by kevin on Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
0 likes   

User avatar
galaxy401
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2419
Age: 30
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:04 pm
Location: Casa Grande, Arizona

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#425 Postby galaxy401 » Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:48 am

The Best Track is still 100 kts. Could change by advisory time.
1 likes   
Got my eyes on moving right into Hurricane Alley: Florida.

Meteophile
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue May 12, 2020 3:38 pm

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#426 Postby Meteophile » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:02 am

I'd say 100kts, probably not much more. Dvorak is often misleading with storms not having a complete "finished" structure. This one is still struggling to get its structure right (the inner eyewall doesn't seem to want to collapse yet).

That said, it may intensify fast once it gets its structure "done".
0 likes   

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15980
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#427 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:26 am

Yeah 100-105kts max. Its in another ERC,
0 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
kevin
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2586
Age: 26
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:35 am

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#428 Postby kevin » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:08 am

Looks like a much larger eye is trying to clear out.
0 likes   

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8818
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#429 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:20 am

Looks like the most recent EWRC is well underway and progressing at a good pace. It might be done within 12 hours.
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15980
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#430 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:25 am

Much easier to go annular with this structure:
Image

I think we'll easily get to 125-130kts within the next 48-72 hours. Not sure how much OHC there is to get a Cat.5 but that may be in the cards too.
5 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145299
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#431 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:04 am

0 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145299
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#432 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:14 am

2 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8818
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#433 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:26 am

Current satellite estimates (SATCON, ADT, CIMSS AMSU, etc) support an intensity between 105 kt and 115 kt. I’d go with 110 kt; Larry is rapidly improving after its EWRC, but it’s not quite good enough to be called a Cat 4 yet. It’ll likely be one this afternoon, however, and its annular structure will help it maintain Cat 4 intensity for several days.
1 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

User avatar
NDG
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15446
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:14 pm
Location: Orlando, FL

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#434 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:44 am

Distance estimates on wxnerds show the eye to be a good 40 miles wide! Impressive looking this morning.

Image
3 likes   

User avatar
cycloneye
Admin
Admin
Posts: 145299
Age: 68
Joined: Thu Oct 10, 2002 10:54 am
Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#435 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:53 am

110 kts.

AL, 12, 2021090412, , BEST, 0, 165N, 452W, 110, 958, HU
4 likes   
Visit the Caribbean-Central America Weather Thread where you can find at first post web cams,radars
and observations from Caribbean basin members Click Here

User avatar
Hypercane_Kyle
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3352
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:58 pm
Location: Cape Canaveral, FL

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#436 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:55 am

Larry does look like he wants to go annular at some point.

Image
5 likes   
My posts are my own personal opinion, defer to the National Hurricane Center (NHC) and other NOAA products for decision making during hurricane season.

User avatar
DorkyMcDorkface
Category 3
Category 3
Posts: 888
Age: 27
Joined: Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:32 pm
Location: Mid-Atlantic

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#437 Postby DorkyMcDorkface » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:05 am

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Larry does look like he wants to go annular at some point.



Image

According to the SHIPS index it's there already:
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL122021 LARRY 09/04/21 12 UTC ##
## PASSED SCREENING STEP, MIGHT BE ANNULAR, CALCULATE AHI FROM DISCRIMINANT ANALYSIS ##
## AHI= 1 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
3 likes   
Please note the thougths expressed by this account are solely those of the user and are from a hobbyist perspective. For more comprehensive analysis, consult an actual professional meteorologist or meteorology agency.


Floyd 1999 | Isabel 2003 | Hanna 2008 | Irene 2011 | Sandy 2012 | Isaias 2020

User avatar
Hypercane_Kyle
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3352
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2015 7:58 pm
Location: Cape Canaveral, FL

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#438 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:07 am

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Larry does look like he wants to go annular at some point.



https://i.imgur.com/92yLHRW.jpg

According to the SHIPS index it's there already:
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL122021 LARRY 09/04/21 12 UTC ##
## PASSED SCREENING STEP, MIGHT BE ANNULAR, CALCULATE AHI FROM DISCRIMINANT ANALYSIS ##
## AHI= 1 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##


Marginally, so on its way.
2 likes   
My posts are my own personal opinion, defer to the National Hurricane Center (NHC) and other NOAA products for decision making during hurricane season.

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8818
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#439 Postby aspen » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:09 am

The HWRF is still forecasting an excellent UL setup on Monday as it moves over 28.0-28.5C SSTs and 35-50 OHC, before shear begins to kick in about 24-48 hours later. Since Larry is likely to become annular this weekend, another EWRC seems less likely, and it’ll be quite resistant to dry, low-shear environments. My guess is that it’ll peak as a 130-135 kt annular Cat 4 Sunday night into early Monday, as it makes its closest approach to the Leeward Islands. This would be a great opportunity for recon.
2 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

User avatar
cheezyWXguy
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6108
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:29 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: ATL: LARRY - Hurricane - Discussion

#440 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:32 am

DorkyMcDorkface wrote:
Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Larry does look like he wants to go annular at some point.



https://i.imgur.com/92yLHRW.jpg

According to the SHIPS index it's there already:
## ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL122021 LARRY 09/04/21 12 UTC ##
## PASSED SCREENING STEP, MIGHT BE ANNULAR, CALCULATE AHI FROM DISCRIMINANT ANALYSIS ##
## AHI= 1 (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##

Looks like it’s just marginal at this point, which I would agree with. The microwave structure posted above suggests it will probably be fully annular soon though
2 likes   


Return to “2021”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests