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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#361 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:50 pm

No upgrade so Claudette isn't likely unless something crazy happens or maybe if it can get going off the East Coast after it exits land, but I doubt that happens
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#362 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:50 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Still no change at intermediate. Claudette will likely come in July as this system has run out of time to get anymore organized - 8pm was its last shot as it’ll be inland by 11


Unless it follows the European and becomes Claudette exiting the Carolinas.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#363 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:51 pm

Derek Ortt had a subtle hint in his Twitter post. When he says Claudette, not PTC. And he is generally conservative.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#364 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:54 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:Still no change at intermediate. Claudette will likely come in July as this system has run out of time to get anymore organized - 8pm was its last shot as it’ll be inland by 11


I wouldn’t completely rule out a Julia 16 type of situation here.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#365 Postby tolakram » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:03 pm

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#366 Postby tolakram » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:04 pm

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#367 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:11 pm




You posted the money shot. :wink: :darrow:
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#368 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:12 pm

aspen wrote:I think that might be an LLC recon just found. Upgrade to TS Claudette at 8?


That's just a small vortex rotating counter-clockwise around a broad area of low pressure. It's moving to the southwest, away from the convection.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#369 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:14 pm

Well NHC still says it should become a TS still so maybe they are anticipating a special advisory later? Either way it's a close call and impacts will be the same regardless
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#370 Postby Stormybajan » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:21 pm

I think I agree with the NHC not naming PTC3 Claudette (yet) until they find a well defined center. Imagine they named it, and received tons of backlash from persons claiming they are "trying to fill the stat sheet". I think this may be the best example of a Potential Tropical Cyclone since they came up with the term in 2017 :)
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#371 Postby JW-_- » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:21 pm

Looks a 40kt TS. And has for quite some time.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#372 Postby Dean4Storms » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:35 pm

Can't imagine Recon checking out just a swirl, but oh well. Have to believe the LLC got pulled SSW on the back side of the surface trough. Strange situation.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#373 Postby Steve » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:37 pm

Stormybajan wrote:I think I agree with the NHC not naming PTC3 Claudette (yet) until they find a well defined center. Imagine they named it, and received tons of backlash from persons claiming they are "trying to fill the stat sheet". I think this may be the best example of a Potential Tropical Cyclone since they came up with the term in 2017 :)


Agreed. They catch **** regardless. Of those who whine like Joe B about “whaaaa they name everything” you’d expect them to be on the other side of it. Then again you never know. Sometimes people are fair. I feel like there are arguments both ways. Clearly this could be Claudette. And clearly it’s just fine as PTC3. Getting drizzle in NWFL but nothing major. Coastal Mississippi looks to get a decent band soon.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#374 Postby tolakram » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:49 pm

Steve wrote:
Stormybajan wrote:I think I agree with the NHC not naming PTC3 Claudette (yet) until they find a well defined center. Imagine they named it, and received tons of backlash from persons claiming they are "trying to fill the stat sheet". I think this may be the best example of a Potential Tropical Cyclone since they came up with the term in 2017 :)


Agreed. They catch **** regardless. Of those who whine like Joe B about “whaaaa they name everything” you’d expect them to be on the other side of it. Then again you never know. Sometimes people are fair. I feel like there are arguments both ways. Clearly this could be Claudette. And clearly it’s just fine as PTC3. Getting drizzle in NWFL but nothing major. Coastal Mississippi looks to get a decent band soon.


The arguments against the NHC change every time, that's the maddening thing. They name too many -or- they should name this! I think the NHC tries to be as objective as possible and with these big sloppy lows and multiple vortices it's difficult.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#375 Postby Hammy » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:54 pm

tolakram wrote:
Steve wrote:
Stormybajan wrote:I think I agree with the NHC not naming PTC3 Claudette (yet) until they find a well defined center. Imagine they named it, and received tons of backlash from persons claiming they are "trying to fill the stat sheet". I think this may be the best example of a Potential Tropical Cyclone since they came up with the term in 2017 :)


Agreed. They catch **** regardless. Of those who whine like Joe B about “whaaaa they name everything” you’d expect them to be on the other side of it. Then again you never know. Sometimes people are fair. I feel like there are arguments both ways. Clearly this could be Claudette. And clearly it’s just fine as PTC3. Getting drizzle in NWFL but nothing major. Coastal Mississippi looks to get a decent band soon.


The arguments against the NHC change every time, that's the maddening thing. They name too many -or- they should name this! I think the NHC tries to be as objective as possible and with these big sloppy lows and multiple vortices it's difficult.


I'm personally of the thinking that this really should be named at this point--but mostly from a consistency standpoint--they've designated worse looking systems in the past. But I will agree that there seems to be people complaining no matter what they do with just about every storm.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#376 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:04 pm

Apparently the GFS is the outlier. The European, Canadian, Icon and navgem all have some kind of remnant low in Eastern NC. Due to baroclinic forcing. The gfs is the only model showing dissipation.
Maybe it will pull a coup and be right.

But, if the other models are right we must ask why was the GFS so wrong.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#377 Postby Sciencerocks » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:18 pm

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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#378 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:20 pm

The little southward moving vortex has dissipated. No center to move ashore. Claudette may have to wait until Monday, or August...
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#379 Postby MarioProtVI » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:37 pm

wxman57 wrote:The little southward moving vortex has dissipated. No center to move ashore. Claudette may have to wait until Monday, or August...

I would say more like July. I doubt July will be dead.
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Re: ATL: Potential Tropical Cyclone Three - Discussion

#380 Postby Kazmit » Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:02 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:
wxman57 wrote:The little southward moving vortex has dissipated. No center to move ashore. Claudette may have to wait until Monday, or August...

I would say more like July. I doubt July will be dead.

Wishful thinking. :wink:
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