ATL: CLAUDETTE - Remnants - Discussion

[NXStumpy_Robothing]

Seems like NHC didn’t buy that center that was found. Already looks to be getting a bit more ill defined so if it ain’t named at 8 it ain’t becoming Claudette.

And never mind them not naming it, they don't even have enough to call it a depression.

A tropical storm and a tropical depression have the same criteria aside from wind speed. If the NHC decided that it was organized enough to be a tropical cyclone, PTC 3 would become Tropical Storm Claudette, not TD-03L.

[psyclone]

Like most early season formative to low end storms, the most impressive feature is the linear convective tail on the east side of the system. That should drag slowly eastward into the FL panhandle as the system comes inland and loses longitude...providing a good dousing for everyone in the line of fire. Also a reminder that the difference between a disturbance, depression or low end storm is insignificant relative to sensible wx.

[Monsoonjr99]

Perhaps land friction helps the circulation consolidate right before landfall. Maybe this ends up being an Imelda-type system.

[wwizard]

Seems like NHC didn’t buy that center that was found. Already looks to be getting a bit more ill defined so if it ain’t named at 8 it ain’t becoming Claudette.

And never mind them not naming it, they don't even have enough to call it a depression.

A tropical storm and a tropical depression have the same criteria aside from wind speed. If the NHC decided that it was organized enough to be a tropical cyclone, PTC 3 would become Tropical Storm Claudette, not TD-03L.

I didn't mean that it had to be called a TD first. Just that it's not. I'm well aware that the current winds being reported, if a cyclone, would bypass it being classified as a TD. It's either a cyclone or it isn't. Evidently it's still not. So no TS, no TD, just PTC.

[RL3AO]

This might be the best use of the potential tropical cyclone thing since they started. At this point it doesn't really matter if it gets named or not it's going to make zero impact on what Louisiana experiences. But there's a good chance that these warnings got people to prepare for potential flooding if they are in a flood prone area.

[FixySLN]

Ocean Springs:

We were FAIRLY saturated already. A Few very hot days in a row helped quite a bit. Gusts coming in now, it's been raining (on the light side) on and off for the last 90 minutes. Got a fairly brief heavy downpour around lunchtime.

We've got a 6 inch curb street along with an 8 inch incline up to the house. I figure we'll be alright regardless. Backyard will probably be moat for the weekend.

[AnnularCane]

Perhaps land friction helps the circulation consolidate right before landfall. Maybe this ends up being an Imelda-type system.

I hope not, I don't like when they get named right at landfall. Even if they should be, it seems like kind of a letdown.

[wxman57]

Its best shot at Claudette may be once it moves offshore of the Carolinas on Monday and is heading toward Nova Scotia. Offshore obs suggest a trof axis.

[Stormcenter]

Causeway Bridge north of New Orleans is
reporting 42 mph winds.

[SohCahToa]

Causeway Bridge north of New Orleans is
reporting 42 mph winds.

I’m off the lake a little bit in Mandeville. Been breezy with nothing over 10mph here at the house. Pressure is dropping a bit pretty steadily though

[aspen]

Its best shot at Claudette may be once it moves offshore of the Carolinas on Monday and is heading toward Nova Scotia. Offshore obs suggest a trof axis.

http://wxman57.com/images/obs2.JPG

All of the global models except the GFS show a bit of re-development off the coast in just about the same location that Bill was in, so maybe it’ll happen. If recon does find a closed circulation, Claudette might end up as a strange two-parter storm.

[Sciencerocks]

I honestly hate these borderline cases. So close and probably more impact then a lot of low end tropical storms of the past to be had on the coast. It is kind of sad.

[JW-_-]

Still no TS designation.

AL, 03, 2021061818, , BEST, 0, 274N, 912W, 40, 1006, LO

Pretty much says it all.

This new classification PTC sux. Invest/ Depression/ Tropical Storm /Hurricane

Certainly, there was rotation on the radar when it came into range.

Maybe a PTA (please try again)

[JW-_-]

Its best shot at Claudette may be once it moves offshore of the Carolinas on Monday and is heading toward Nova Scotia. Offshore obs suggest a trof axis.

http://wxman57.com/images/obs2.JPG

From one of your team members 57.

[Audrey2Katrina]

How long, exactly, have they been using this term, "Potential" Tropical Cyclone? I've seen quite a few storms and hurricanes but don't ever remember a "potential" storm... could be age, but this seems new to me.

[Hammy]

How long, exactly, have they been using this term, "Potential" Tropical Cyclone? I've seen quite a few storms and hurricanes but don't ever remember a "potential" storm... could be age, but this seems new to me.

2017 is the first time I recall it being used--I think it was one of the policy changes that resulted from Sandy.

[aspen]

I think that might be an LLC recon just found. Upgrade to TS Claudette at 8?

[aspen]

How long, exactly, have they been using this term, "Potential" Tropical Cyclone? I've seen quite a few storms and hurricanes but don't ever remember a "potential" storm... could be age, but this seems new to me.

2017 is the first time I recall it being used--I think it was one of the policy changes that resulted from Sandy.

PTCs were first introduced in 2017. I don’t know if they were a result of Sandy, but I do know that the practice of tracking storms near land after post-tropical transition was. This was put into good effect with Hermine ‘16, which meandered off the NE US coast for three days as a non-tropical cyclone.

[cycloneye]

No Claudette on Intermediate advisory.

[MarioProtVI]

Still no change at intermediate. Claudette will likely come in July as this system has run out of time to get anymore organized - 8pm was its last shot as it’ll be inland by 11