ATL: ZETA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#881 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:18 pm

Looks like the cold pool has begun to cool off again with strongest convection directly over it.
Definitely a structural improvement.

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#882 Postby aspen » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:19 pm

Officially Hurricane Zeta in the 18z best track, now the 11th (official) hurricane of the year.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#883 Postby canefan » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:21 pm

I think we see a stronger storm and a more eastward track
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#884 Postby Do_For_Love » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:21 pm

Wow. Zeta could be off to the races at this point, looks good and still has solid time until landfall. Maybe land interaction could become an issue and prevent RI?

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#885 Postby GCANE » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:21 pm

Afterburners kicked in.
65 mm/hr rain rate

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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#886 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:22 pm

AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTERS FIND ZETA HAS STRENGTHENED
TO A HURRICANE


Here we go! Just like Sally!
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#887 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:22 pm

This will be a good webcam to watch in Cozumel, looking west away from the strong easterly winds.

https://www.webcamsdemexico.com/webcam- ... park-royal
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#888 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:25 pm

There it is, hurricane #11. And that other very strong signal for the Caribbean might become #12 later. I hope this puts any discussion about 2020 not being that active, since the ACE is relatively low, to bed.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#889 Postby crimi481 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:33 pm

Looks like moving more north than west now. I also think more east track very possible. Front moving fast also
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#890 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:36 pm

The GFS nailed another one from its long range forecast.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#891 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:40 pm

NDG wrote:The GFS nailed another one from its long range forecast.


Yes, GFS has gotten a lot of critisism on this forum recently with its long range monsters and I have also definitely participated in that critisism after GFS suddenly dropped development after all those massive signals in earlier runs. But the formation of Zeta and also many other storms this season shows that GFS is way better this year at sniffing out long-term development than any of the other models. Yes, sometimes it's too aggressive, but I'd rather have a model that spins up a few extra hurricanes than a model that misses them completely even in the short-term.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#892 Postby 3090 » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:42 pm

crimi481 wrote:Looks like moving more north than west now. I also think more east track very possible. Front moving fast also

Looks like and actual, are vastly different. To be perfectly blunt, the NHC has nailed Zeta to a “T” thus far. Track and intensity. There were quite a few skeptics on this board, doubting Zeta would become a Hurricane before it made landfall on the Yucatan.

Get some popcorn ready to watch and not guess what it looks like.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#893 Postby weeniepatrol » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:42 pm

kevin wrote:There it is, hurricane #11. And that other very strong signal for the Caribbean might become #12 later. I hope this puts any discussion about 2020 not being that active, since the ACE is relatively low, to bed.


im sure that after Zeta and future Eta fling 2020 into hyperactive status they'll still find something to complain about :roll:

i'll predict that it's the lack of a cat 5. 2020 wasn't that active cause it had no cat 5 guys!!!!
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#894 Postby Emmett_Brown » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:43 pm

NDG wrote:The GFS nailed another one from its long range forecast.


Exactly. Nailed it. GFS and GEFS see the storm in the long range, drop it, then it inevitably forms, and they have to play catch-up. It's happened repeatedly this year. Will probably happen at least one more time in 10 days or so. Zeta looking healthy.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#895 Postby kevin » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:45 pm

Emmett_Brown wrote:
NDG wrote:The GFS nailed another one from its long range forecast.


Exactly. Nailed it. GFS and GEFS see the storm in the long range, drop it, then it inevitably forms, and they have to play catch-up. It's happened repeatedly this year. Will probably happen at least one more time in 10 days or so. Zeta looking healthy.


GFS is like me during a test when I fill in an answer, but then start to doubt it and decide to change it later. And in the end your crossed out initial answer is always the right one :lol: .
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#896 Postby tomatkins » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:46 pm

weeniepatrol wrote:
kevin wrote:There it is, hurricane #11. And that other very strong signal for the Caribbean might become #12 later. I hope this puts any discussion about 2020 not being that active, since the ACE is relatively low, to bed.


im sure that after Zeta and future Eta fling 2020 into hyperactive status they'll still find something to complain about :roll:

i'll predict that it's the lack of a cat 5. 2020 wasn't that active cause it had no cat 5 guys!!!!

Well no yet.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#897 Postby CyclonicFury » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:47 pm

Another hurricane the ECMWF completely missed just a few days ago. :roll:
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#898 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:51 pm

981mb....that’s a crazy drop in half a day on a struggling TS.
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#899 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:51 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:Another hurricane the ECMWF completely missed just a few days ago. :roll:


The Euro is no longer a reliable model for forecasting TC genesis, unfortunately. A model that cannot even show a hurricane with <72 hours in advance is simply not useful. GFS had been showing a hurricane in the western Caribbean well over a week ago (even if it was biased a little too strong).
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Re: ATL: ZETA - Hurricane - Discussion

#900 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:52 pm

Very impressive. Managed to overcome the tilt and bring us just one shy of the aggressive CSU forecast for the year of 12 hurricanes, which should be matched next week or so by the expected Caribbean development. That'd tie us with 1969 for second most hurricanes in a single season on all time record, behind only 2005. Extraordinarily busy season.
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