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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#81 Postby caneseddy » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:58 pm

ICON ends NE of Puerto Rico heading west at 120
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#82 Postby AtlanticWind » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:58 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Ridge looks a whole lot weaker this run.

I think ridge is stronger on this run
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#83 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:58 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Ridge looks a whole lot weaker this run.


Nope... ridge still there if anything a bit stronger.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#84 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:01 pm

SFLcane wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Ridge looks a whole lot weaker this run.


Nope... ridge still there if anything a bit stronger.

You’re right, was looking at the wrong solution. Still about the same.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#85 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:03 pm

Looks like the 18z GFS has decided to go backwards and show a weaker vort than what it was showing on the 12z.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#87 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:10 pm

I find it truly amazing that whatever changes were made to the GFS, have taken it from spinning up tons of phantoms to having trouble spinning up anything. Yet in the pacific it has been all systems go. I'd sure love to have a discussion with someone about what has possibly caused this at some time after the season when we have the luxury of looking back.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#88 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:16 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:I find it truly amazing that whatever changes were made to the GFS, have taken it from spinning up tons of phantoms to having trouble spinning up anything. Yet in the pacific it has been all systems go. I'd sure love to have a discussion with someone about what has possibly caused this at some time after the season when we have the luxury of looking back.


Wow I've certainly noticed the GFS whipping up spinners from spurious vort sources. One such location hot spot is vort energy that rolls off of the coasts of Venezuela and Columbia in the far S Caribbean.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#89 Postby SouthFLTropics » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:22 pm

toad strangler wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:I find it truly amazing that whatever changes were made to the GFS, have taken it from spinning up tons of phantoms to having trouble spinning up anything. Yet in the pacific it has been all systems go. I'd sure love to have a discussion with someone about what has possibly caused this at some time after the season when we have the luxury of looking back.


Wow I've certainly noticed the GFS whipping up spinners from spurious vort sources. One such location hot spot is vort energy that rolls off of the coasts of Venezuela and Columbia in the far S Caribbean.


You bring up a good point. It is inclined to whip up something where there isn't and not whip up something where there is.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#90 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:43 pm

Well I hope this scenario doesn’t verify... :double:


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#91 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:47 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Well I hope this scenario doesn’t verify... :double:


https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/navgem/2020081712/navgem_mslp_uv850_watl_26.png


I'd put that possibility at <1%
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#92 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:26 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Well I hope this scenario doesn’t verify... :double:



Is that supposed to be 97L and 98L both twin hurricanes threatening the US?! I don't see this verifying (this is the NAVGEM) but that will cause a media frenzy if true.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#93 Postby Kazmit » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:30 pm

galaxy401 wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Well I hope this scenario doesn’t verify... :double:



Is that supposed to be 97L and 98L both twin hurricanes threatening the US?! I don't see this verifying (this is the NAVGEM) but that will cause a media frenzy if true.

“Double trouble! - The Siamese hurricanes of 2020 are barreling towards the US!”
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#94 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:33 pm

Kazmit wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Well I hope this scenario doesn’t verify... :double:



Is that supposed to be 97L and 98L both twin hurricanes threatening the US?! I don't see this verifying (this is the NAVGEM) but that will cause a media frenzy if true.

“Double trouble! - The Siamese hurricanes of 2020 are barreling towards the US!”


Highly doubtful. But I sense your sarcasm!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#95 Postby MetroMike » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:46 pm

toad strangler wrote:
Kazmit wrote:
galaxy401 wrote:
Is that supposed to be 97L and 98L both twin hurricanes threatening the US?! I don't see this verifying (this is the NAVGEM) but that will cause a media frenzy if true.

“Double trouble! - The Siamese hurricanes of 2020 are barreling towards the US!”


Highly doubtful. But I sense your sarcasm!


This is 2020. It is possible given the factors out there and built up heat energy along with the MJO in the basin.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#96 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:35 pm

I don't think the Euro solution is going to pan out, because I don't think that it's going to develop as fast as the EURO wants to develop it, thus a more west movement
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#97 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:37 pm

18z late intensity guidance is much weaker.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#98 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:39 pm

SFLcane wrote:18z late intensity guidance is much weaker.



Yea, I knew the EURO was too bullish, thus taking it more north than west
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ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#99 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:41 pm

I wonder why the intensity guidance for the most part dips around 132hrs and then starts climbing again? Land interaction ?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#100 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:41 pm

SFLcane wrote:18z late intensity guidance is much weaker.


I still think it will become a tropical storm. Maybe not a hurricane if the weakening trends continue, but before all is said and done, I bet we will still get a tropical storm out of it...
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