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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#321 Postby Steve » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:32 am

HWRF @ 81h getting closer to landfall
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#322 Postby Steve » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:41 am

HWRF 87h is a bit stronger and slower than HMON but up to 946. I can't host these last couple images, so I'll just post the link. Once it landfalls on HWRF, I'm going to bed for good.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0600&fh=87
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#323 Postby Steve » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:43 am

Landfall slightly west of HMON at 4:00pm Friday @ 954mb on HWRF just about at Morgan City.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 0600&fh=93
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#324 Postby TallahasseeMan » Tue Oct 06, 2020 12:57 am

Looks like Delta may just scrape the Yucatán instead of making landfall on the Euro


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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#325 Postby Steve » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:04 am

TallahasseeMan wrote:Looks like Delta may just scrape the Yucatán instead of making landfall on the Euro


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I’m tucked in but hoping you can narrate what it does. Last peek for me is 48h at 500mb. Ridge extending north of Delta will have to ease or this run would be pretty far west.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#326 Postby LarryWx » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:15 am

0Z Euro is similar to the 18Z. Another sign that maybe the westward trend has ended. Coming in to landfall stronger than the 12Z in far W LA and not til almost sunrise Saturday.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#327 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:42 am

Euro trending west with a weaker storm and weaker trough.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#328 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:02 am

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#329 Postby Astromanía » Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:00 am

Wonder if this could be one of the worst hurricane landfalls in my country. In the last decade we had four majors making landfall, Karl 2010 as a cat 3 (205 km/hr), in the state of Veracruz, Odile 2014 as a cat 3 (205 km/hr) in Baja California Sur state, Patricia 2015 as a cat 4 (240 km/hr) in Jalisco and Willa 2018 as a cat 3 (185km/hr) in Sinaloa. This could easily be the worst natural disaster for cancun and the riviera maya since hurricanes Wilma and Emily in 2005, and if it reach cat 5 at landfall then will be the first one since Dean in 2007.
I hope all my compatriots there are preparing for this monster. Stay safe people!
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#330 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:07 am

Appears mid GoM is where this may peak.
Still in the middle of the ARWB with an ULL to the east.

On approach and the Rossby Wave appears to take a hit.
It'll enhance outflow as well as the ULL ventilating it.
Satellite views will likely be spectacular.

Its a little early to get a handle on final track until it clears the Yucatan and see the condition of the RW then.
However, IMHO maybe 50/50 this is a major at landfall.

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#331 Postby SconnieCane » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:09 am



A weaker redux in the same spot already cleaned out by Laura would probably be the best-case scenario in terms of overall (lack of) impacts; although certainly not what anyone there needs.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#332 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:09 am

Astromanía wrote:Wonder if this could be one of the worst hurricane landfalls in my country. In the last decade we had four majors making landfall, Karl 2010 as a cat 3 (205 km/hr), in the state of Veracruz, Odile as a cat 3 (205 km/hr) in Baja California Sur state, Patricia as a cat 4 (240 km/hr) in Jalisco and Willa as a cat 3 (185km/hr) in Sinaloa. This could easily be the worst natural disaster for cancun and the riviera maya since hurricanes Wilma and Emily in 2005, and if it reach cat 5 at landfall then will be the first one since Dean in 2007.
I hope all my compatriots there are preparing for this monster. Stay safe people!


Stay safe everyone in its path.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#333 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:25 am

IMHO it's a bit early yet to pinpoint landfall but this trend in the GFS appears to be significant to watch since Delta will likely be a major TC in the mid GoM.

GFS has been forecasting an UL High to develop east of FL.
Run-to-run has it moving east to west.
Trend appears that this may push into the GoM.
Effect is that Delta is slowing down approach and pushing the track west.

Stay tuned.


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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#334 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:42 am

HWRF is buying into the slow down as well
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#335 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:44 am

GCANE wrote:HWRF is buying into the slow down as well


HWRF is always too fast anyway past its 48-72 hrs.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#336 Postby GCANE » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:48 am

Rossby wave giving a tilt on approach
Very cold tropopause.
Vmax is driven predominately by the tropopause temperature.
The colder the tropopause, the higher the Vmax.

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#337 Postby bella_may » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:52 am

HMON and HWRF both slightly east so far
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#338 Postby NDG » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:53 am

Here we go again with the Euro ensembles, I am sure is going to make people in TX nervous again like it did with Laura. Don't buy into them, at least not yet.

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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#339 Postby Nimbus » Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:59 am

GCANE wrote:HWRF is buying into the slow down as well


00Z HWRF run didn't track west of 92 or show as much effect from any trough interaction(one run).
Its not like Delta is headed for Hawaii, we might notice a category lower winds from cooler water but Cat 3 winds still possible just east of center at landfall and surge is going to be same as that of a major.
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Re: ATL: DELTA - Models

#340 Postby SconnieCane » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:10 am

Nimbus wrote:
GCANE wrote:HWRF is buying into the slow down as well


00Z HWRF run didn't track west of 92 or show as much effect from any trough interaction(one run).
Its not like Delta is headed for Hawaii, we might notice a category lower winds from cooler water but Cat 3 winds still possible just east of center at landfall and surge is going to be same as that of a major.


:lol: OT but it boggles my mind how well that island chain in the middle of the tropical Pacific is protected from major hits. Iniki truly seems like a unicorn event.
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