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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3121 Postby wzrgirl1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:24 am

Weatherboy1 wrote:NHC website has/had a “Hurricane ETA” header a few minutes ago just FYI...



So does Max Tracker.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3122 Postby Kazmit » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:25 am

Classic looking strong TS

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3123 Postby chaser1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:26 am

SouthDadeFish wrote:It seems like the deep convection led to the formation of a mesovortex, with locally stronger winds and a tight pressure gradient. However, this structure seems very tilted. If convection does not persist, I could easily see this feature collapsing over the next couple of hours and the system transitions back to a sheared mess. On the other hand, if convection does persist, the feature can become better aligned and lead to the development of a deeper TC. For now, it seems the deepest convection is firing to the east of this feature, which makes me wonder if we will see yet another attempt at a center reformation down the road. Previous HWRF runs hinted at this.


:uarrow: This pretty much nails it. Simply based upon present appearance and persistence of convection, i'd have to think we'll be seeing Hurricane Warnings lifted for a portion of the Cuba coastline shortly. One other thing that should be noted - while dry air is immediately encroaching on Eta from the West, the moisture/humidty immediately north of Cuba is uber-thick. That layer will likely soon begin to move northward over the Keys and S. Florida. That could well be your "first 4-6" for this event.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3124 Postby underthwx » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:29 am


That is a great image!
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3125 Postby dandeliongum » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:29 am

In Pembroke Pines here. Friends of mine weren't even aware there was a system approaching and they're usually the type to be prepared. Hardly any mention of the storm on local news sites, too.

My local NWS predicts 25-35 mph winds in my area with gusts to 40-50~.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3126 Postby chaser1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:31 am

Nimbus wrote:
Blown Away wrote:10:00 am_19.6W/81.8W_40 mph
11:00 am_19.7W/81.5W_50 mph

.1N and .3E past hour = ENE not NE


The low hasn't cut off in the gulf yet and the track could take a larger circumference.
18Z models..


uh oh...... That would suggest a track further east and north. That might imply a U-turn closer to Andros (?) perhaps and would imply a potential landfall maybe as far north as Broward/Palm Beach.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3127 Postby Cat5James » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:32 am

dandeliongum wrote:In Pembroke Pines here. Friends of mine weren't even aware there was a system approaching and they're usually the type to be prepared. Hardly any mention of the storm on local news sites, too.

My local NWS predicts 25-35 mph winds in my area with gusts to 40-50~.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50576582917_40d705302e_c.jpg

These maps were updated after the last advisory... Pembroke Pines would now fall under the Orange colored section where winds of 58-73 mph are possible.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3128 Postby underthwx » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:33 am

chaser1 wrote:
SouthDadeFish wrote:It seems like the deep convection led to the formation of a mesovortex, with locally stronger winds and a tight pressure gradient. However, this structure seems very tilted. If convection does not persist, I could easily see this feature collapsing over the next couple of hours and the system transitions back to a sheared mess. On the other hand, if convection does persist, the feature can become better aligned and lead to the development of a deeper TC. For now, it seems the deepest convection is firing to the east of this feature, which makes me wonder if we will see yet another attempt at a center reformation down the road. Previous HWRF runs hinted at this.


:uarrow: This pretty much nails it. Simply based upon present appearance and persistence of convection, i'd have to think we'll be seeing Hurricane Warnings lifted for a portion of the Cuba coastline shortly. One other thing that should be noted - while dry air is immediately encroaching on Eta from the West, the moisture/humidty immediately north of Cuba is uber-thick. That layer will likely soon begin to move northward over the Keys and S. Florida. That could well be your "first 4-6" for this event.

Yes, ETA may very well be affecting the peninsula for some time to come, hopefully ETA will get picked up by a front, and accelerate out of the region
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3129 Postby Mouton » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:33 am

Patrick99 wrote:On the WV loop, I can kinda see the "wall" descending from the Carolinas that it's going to start to run into eventually.


It is the expanding pressure boundary.

Looks to me on sat it is heading to a landing in Cuba around 79w. Water temps on north side cuba about 2c below those on south side too. Combo of land interaction and slightly cooler sea temps should put a throttle on it especially if it gets some dry air immersion. Once north of cuba it begins running into the pillow effect of the high 1029mb to its north so unless it can get under it to the east, doubtful, it will slow down and begin shifting back to the NW. I am horrible on intensity forecast but will go ahead with a top 80MPH and declining once it reaches the GOM given the water temps there near florida around 25C. That said, the wind field will exist quite far in the NE portion of the storm.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3130 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:34 am

Definitely an eyewall coming together.

https://www.rainviewer.com/map.html?loc ... &sm=0&sn=0
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3131 Postby Kazmit » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:38 am

Wow, that's quite a band.

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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3132 Postby chaser1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:39 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Definitely an eyewall coming together.

https://www.rainviewer.com/map.html?loc ... &sm=0&sn=0


Yeah, i'm looking at that warm spot NW of GC. Boy, and yet that dry slot is increasingly encroaching to the southwest. We've seriously entered the "now-cast" zone lol
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3133 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:41 am

TWC mentioning that convection is diminishing rapidly. May not become a Hurricane once it crosses Cuba...


Uh...?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3134 Postby chaser1 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:44 am

Side note:

14N & 74W - "Spawn of Eta" .... coming to a theater near you :lol:
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3135 Postby underthwx » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:46 am

chaser1 wrote:Side note:

14N & 74W - "Spawn of Eta" .... coming to a theater near you :lol:

Lol...
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#3136 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:49 am

Mouton wrote:
Patrick99 wrote:On the WV loop, I can kinda see the "wall" descending from the Carolinas that it's going to start to run into eventually.


It is the expanding pressure boundary.

Looks to me on sat it is heading to a landing in Cuba around 79w. Water temps on north side cuba about 2c below those on south side too. Combo of land interaction and slightly cooler sea temps should put a throttle on it especially if it gets some dry air immersion. Once north of cuba it begins running into the pillow effect of the high 1029mb to its north so unless it can get under it to the east, doubtful, it will slow down and begin shifting back to the NW. I am horrible on intensity forecast but will go ahead with a top 80MPH and declining once it reaches the GOM given the water temps there near florida around 25C. That said, the wind field will exist quite far in the NE portion of the storm.
Fyi,79w is east of fort lauderdale
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3137 Postby underthwx » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:51 am

Out of curiosity, I looked up the longest lasting cyclone on record, and found that Hurricane John, also known as Typhoon John, was active from August 11th, 1994 to September 13th, 1994. 4 weeks, 2 days.... I wonder will ETA surpass the record?
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3138 Postby Kazmit » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:57 am

Hurricane-force winds found.
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#3139 Postby Mouton » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:02 pm

jlauderdal wrote:Fyi,79w is east of fort lauderdale


I know exactly where it is but thanks for recognizing that. :D :D
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3140 Postby underthwx » Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:05 pm

Kazmit wrote:Hurricane-force winds found.

I would imagine the NHC will issue another intermediate advisory within an hour or so, with recon finding stronger winds..
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