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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#301 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:18 pm

SFLcane wrote:Really can we get anymore lucky in SFL... Amazing


Hopefully this is our storm for the year
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#302 Postby DestinHurricane » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:18 pm

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Aric Dunn wrote:Just keep in mind.. the stronger this gets the more northerly it will likely turn. deep steering in a couple days should be north..


Stronger sooner yes. But if it holds steady for 48 hours, it would be stuck moving west in the Gulf with a deep layer of ventilation to its north.


Doubt it holds steady. Might be over everglades for 12 hours but that's all that is holding it back.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#303 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:19 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Really can we get anymore lucky in SFL... Amazing


Yes just needed another 24 hours over water and wow could have been much more of an issue here. The luck does continue. But this would be the first landfalling TC from the east since 2005 right?

No, Gordon in 2018.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#304 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:19 pm

Pretty breezy and gusty from time to time up this way in palm city. Nice change of weather for now.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#305 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:19 pm

So it’s roughly 8-10 hrs before it moves into onshore care to share intensity?

I say 50 mph.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#306 Postby GCANE » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:20 pm

Cold pooling as indicated by rapid drop in CAPE for the tower west of Andros.
Clear indication this is now self sustaining.
Likely will see a rapid warm core develop above the cold pool.


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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#307 Postby eastcoastFL » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:20 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:
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Aric Dunn wrote:Just keep in mind.. the stronger this gets the more northerly it will likely turn. deep steering in a couple days should be north..


Stronger sooner yes. But if it holds steady for 48 hours, it would be stuck moving west in the Gulf with a deep layer of ventilation to its north.


Doubt it holds steady. Might be over everglades for 12 hours but that's all that is holding it back.


It May gain Strength over the glades. It’s not unheard of.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#308 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:22 pm

Yep our hurricane luck continues here in SE Florida! Must be all that hurricane repellent Steve Weagle sprays. :lol:

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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#309 Postby Ian2401 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:22 pm

any chance this heads north sooner towards panhandle area? not familiar with the steering pattern at play here
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#310 Postby chaser1 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:24 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:I wouldn’t rule out one bit yet another hurricane hit in the U.S. for the northern Gulf Coast next week. Current landfall intensity is just under Cat.1 threshold.

Add this to the list of storms the global models failed miserably at forecasting. :x


But the NAM nailed it (short range anyway) :lol: Go figure.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#311 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:25 pm

scotto wrote:So.... What are the shear forecasts for the Northern Gulf in the next 3-4 days?


Latest SHIPS showed SW shear near 20 knots at landfall, but like mentioned in the NHC forecast discussion, too early to tell and we have seen that change before.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#312 Postby chaser1 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:26 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Really can we get anymore lucky in SFL... Amazing


Hopefully this is our storm for the year


I wouldn't place a big bet on that :wink:
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#313 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:27 pm

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caneseddy wrote:And this storm follows the pattern this season of TC's forming close to the US and of the models once again failing in picking up the genesis. Hopefully this does not pull a Katrina even though the setup is almost identical.

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The difference is the theme this year has been storms RIing up until landfall rather than weaken like Katrina. If that happens with here with the forecasted track, Sally may be a name remembered for many years unfortunately


Not to mention it would likely go left of the cone if it misses the connection, meaning a second hit on places already devastated by Laura as well. However, if it does keep strengthening in the short term, the chances of making the connection increase.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#314 Postby SFLcane » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:28 pm

SFLcane wrote:So it’s roughly 8-10 hrs before it moves into onshore care to share intensity?

I say 50 mph.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#315 Postby DestinHurricane » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:29 pm

SFLcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:So it’s roughly 8-10 hrs before it moves into onshore care to share intensity?

I say 50 mph.


45mph
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#316 Postby Jr0d » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:29 pm

I think a WSW track in the next 12-24 hours is possible. This would keep in over water and just South of the tip of Florida. We have ssen that WSW dive a few times in that area with a similar set up. Katrina is one that went WSW unexpectedly before hitting Florida.

Even on radar there appears to be some South to the forward motion, however that maybe misleading given the storm is still trying to form a well defined LLC.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#317 Postby ElectricStorm » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:30 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
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caneseddy wrote:And this storm follows the pattern this season of TC's forming close to the US and of the models once again failing in picking up the genesis. Hopefully this does not pull a Katrina even though the setup is almost identical.

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The difference is the theme this year has been storms RIing up until landfall rather than weaken like Katrina. If that happens with here with the forecasted track, Sally may be a name remembered for many years unfortunately


Not to mention it would likely go left of the cone if it misses the connection, meaning a second hit on places already devastated by Laura as well. However, if it does keep strengthening in the short term, the chances of making the connection increase.

But of it turns too early and goes into FL panhandle it'll hit the areas still recovering from Michael. Pretty much a lose-lose situation
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#318 Postby SunnyThoughts » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:31 pm

Don't like the vibes from this at all. At least everyone has the weekend to get ready on the northern gulf coast. You guys in south Fla take care..hopefully not enough time for it to ramp up much before landfall there.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#319 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:32 pm

This is almost unreal, but let's be honest it has looked suspicious since last night. With the NHC already throwing out the hurricane term the northern Gulf coast has to watch this very closely.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#320 Postby EquusStorm » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:32 pm

Well that uh, escalated fast. We're in the running for the September named storm record at this pace; this will be five, the African wave will be six, and the record is eight... and it's just the 11th.
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