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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2901 Postby boca » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:23 pm

Let me add it will look more organized up by Florida at 65mph. Nothing to look down on, during Irma the winds were only tropical storm strength here in SE Florida.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2902 Postby boca » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:25 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
NDG wrote:Definitely the strength of Eta as it tracks across S FL will depend how quickly it gets tropical characteristics again once shear drops over it after it passes Cuba. But my bet that tracking over the warm gulf stream it will be a quick strengthening with such low shear environment.



Call me crazy, but I don't like the idea of Eta slowing to a crawl for half of Monday in the vicinity of the Keys...



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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2903 Postby Nuno » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:26 pm

SFLcane wrote:We should have TS Eta during overnight hrs.


Very weird that it hasn't been upgraded yet.

People down here don't take TS watches seriously, there's a very blase attitude of "oh its no big deal just rain", so it seems weird that forecasting 65kt gusts being possible that they wouldn't just go with the hurricane watches. They can always upgrade those to TS warnings if it doesn't pan out. Seems like the NHC is down on Eta intensifying much after Cuba.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2904 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:28 pm

Nuno wrote:
SFLcane wrote:We should have TS Eta during overnight hrs.


Very weird that it hasn't been upgraded yet.

People down here don't take TS watches seriously, there's a very blase attitude of "oh its no big deal just rain", so it seems weird that forecasting 65kt gusts being possible that they wouldn't just go with the hurricane watches. They can always upgrade those to TS warnings if it doesn't pan out. Seems like the NHC is down on Eta intensifying much after Cuba.


Hurricane watches could potentially be isssued tomorrow
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2905 Postby SFLcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:30 pm

boca wrote:Let me add it will look more organized up by Florida at 65mph. Nothing to look down on, during Irma the winds were only tropical storm strength here in SE Florida.


How did that work out for you? Have those flash lights ready to go
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2906 Postby boca » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:33 pm

SFLcane wrote:
boca wrote:Let me add it will look more organized up by Florida at 65mph. Nothing to look down on, during Irma the winds were only tropical storm strength here in SE Florida.


How did that work out for you? Have those flash lights ready to go


During Irma we never lost power but we lost cable and we had flashlights also those hockey puck lights you can put on the wall. We made out good with Irma.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2907 Postby gatorcane » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:34 pm

SFLcane wrote:
boca wrote:Let me add it will look more organized up by Florida at 65mph. Nothing to look down on, during Irma the winds were only tropical storm strength here in SE Florida.


How did that work out for you? Have those flash lights ready to go


Irma created 90-100mph gusts across some areas of South Florida. That is a big difference from 50mph which generally won’t cause mass power outages.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2908 Postby boca » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:35 pm

We are ready good on supplies and water and some junk food.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2909 Postby underthwx » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:37 pm

SFLcane wrote:
Nuno wrote:
SFLcane wrote:We should have TS Eta during overnight hrs.


Very weird that it hasn't been upgraded yet.

People down here don't take TS watches seriously, there's a very blase attitude of "oh its no big deal just rain", so it seems weird that forecasting 65kt gusts being possible that they wouldn't just go with the hurricane watches. They can always upgrade those to TS warnings if it doesn't pan out. Seems like the NHC is down on Eta intensifying much after Cuba.


Hurricane watches could potentially be isssued tomorrow

yeah...I believe Wxman57 said in an earlier post...that he expects hurricane watches to be posted...
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#2910 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:38 pm

SFLcane wrote:
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We can handle this. I don’t foresee Eta being all that bad for South Florida.


If you consider power outages a prolonged period of winds gusts over 55 mph and 10 inches rain no biggie more power to you.

Sounds a bit over the edge to me. 18z GFS is only forecasting 4-6 inches of rain to fall across South Florida. I’m probably not going to shutter up for this one, unless overnight runs get more bullish.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2911 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:39 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
boca wrote:Let me add it will look more organized up by Florida at 65mph. Nothing to look down on, during Irma the winds were only tropical storm strength here in SE Florida.


How did that work out for you? Have those flash lights ready to go


Irma created 90-100mph gusts across some areas of South Florida. That is a big difference from 50mph which generally won’t cause mass power outages.

Unless we see hurricane wind gusts then I don’t expect to see too many power outages across South Florida. We get TS wind gusts in a typical afternoon severe thunderstorm.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2912 Postby Nuno » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:41 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SFLcane wrote:
boca wrote:Let me add it will look more organized up by Florida at 65mph. Nothing to look down on, during Irma the winds were only tropical storm strength here in SE Florida.


How did that work out for you? Have those flash lights ready to go


Irma created 90-100mph gusts across some areas of South Florida. That is a big difference from 50mph which generally won’t cause mass power outages.


Pretty sure the Keys will likely see 65-70 mph gusts. Not that its catastrophic but it will catch people off guard. Remember Katrina was only 80 mph and it shut down SFL for several days. And I recall so many people surprised somehow how strong "just a cat 1" was.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2913 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:46 pm

boca wrote:Let me add it will look more organized up by Florida at 65mph. Nothing to look down on, during Irma the winds were only tropical storm strength here in SE Florida.

No their were hurricane gusts all throughout South Florida during Irma. We just never saw sustained hurricane winds here in Metropolitan SE Florida.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2914 Postby underthwx » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:47 pm

I wish all of you in Florida well throughout ETA.... unfortunately, it sounds as if the effects may be slow to clear out for yall, from what I have read on various news and weather agencies...
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2915 Postby toad strangler » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:50 pm

underthwx wrote:I wish all of you in Florida well throughout ETA.... unfortunately, it sounds as if the effects may be slow to clear out for yall, from what I have read on various news and weather agencies...


THis is what somebody like the StormExpert doesn't understand when he continually states that this will be no worse than what S FL sees in pop up thunderstorms. Those storms don't last for 24 to 48 hours.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2916 Postby caneseddy » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:00 pm

toad strangler wrote:
underthwx wrote:I wish all of you in Florida well throughout ETA.... unfortunately, it sounds as if the effects may be slow to clear out for yall, from what I have read on various news and weather agencies...


THis is what somebody like the StormExpert doesn't understand when he continually states that this will be no worse than what S FL sees in pop up thunderstorms. Those storms don't last for 24 to 48 hours.


Exactly. Our typical summer thunderstorms last 1-2 hours and move out; this will be a prolonged event of at least 24 hours, especially if what Mets are saying about the windfield expanding and the pressure gradient
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2917 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:04 pm

I don't understand why a storm, if it's not a Cat 3+ , is always compared to a "summer thunderstorm" in Florida.

Summer thunderstorms are quick; they're in and out in 30-minutes at most. There's some localized street flooding at most and some branches down from a 60-mph wind gust. That's it.

Tropical storms are prolonged, with tons of rain that can bring much more flooding and significant damage.

They are not the same.
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#2918 Postby underthwx » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:05 pm

caneseddy wrote:
toad strangler wrote:
underthwx wrote:I wish all of you in Florida well throughout ETA.... unfortunately, it sounds as if the effects may be slow to clear out for yall, from what I have read on various news and weather agencies...


THis is what somebody like the StormExpert doesn't understand when he continually states that this will be no worse than what S FL sees in pop up thunderstorms. Those storms don't last for 24 to 48 hours.


Exactly. Our typical summer thunderstorms last 1-2 hours and move out; this will be a prolonged event of at least 24 hours, especially if what Mets are saying about the windfield expanding and the pressure gradient


Nothing personal my friends...just wishing everyone well...I hope it will be a quick event... minimal effects...yall have a good weekend
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2919 Postby Jr0d » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:07 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:I don't understand why a storm, if it's not a Cat 3+ , is always compared to a "summer thunderstorm" in Florida.

Summer thunderstorms are quick; they're in and out in 30-minutes at most. There's some localized street flooding at most and some branches down from a 60-mph wind gust. That's it.

Tropical storms are prolonged, with tons of rain that can bring much more flooding and significant damage.

They are not the same.


Plus the tornadoes that these hybrid systems often put out. Even if the winds are only in the 40kt range across South Florida, a tornado outbreak will be possible with Eta.
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Re: ATL: ETA - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#2920 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:13 pm

This is going to be a relatively untraditional tropical experience for SFL. Prolonged, sustained, wacky approach and departure, and a sub-tropical structure.

Not an afternoon thunderstorm. I filled up the gas tank on the way home from work. Otherwise I’ve been stocked up on the essentials all season. Thought FL would get away with it this year after being in I think 3 cones prior to Eta without impacts. But 2020.
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