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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2421 Postby captainbarbossa19 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:29 pm

Hammy wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:I have yet to see any definitive proof of a center reformation south of Hispaniola. You guys are going to drive yourselves crazy trying to pick out a center tonight while it traverses Hispaniola. It's still a large low pressure area with more than one vortex rotating around the larger area of low pressure.


Recon found the llc south of DR

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA3-0613A-LAURA.png


Winds are also out of the east and southeast on the coast further confirming the circulation is over water to the south.


Well Laura, you sure are full of surprises. This could very well make landfall now close to where the 1900 Galveston Hurricane made landfall in the DR. It hit Baní.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2422 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:29 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:I have yet to see any definitive proof of a center reformation south of Hispaniola. You guys are going to drive yourselves crazy trying to pick out a center tonight while it traverses Hispaniola. It's still a large low pressure area with more than one vortex rotating around the larger area of low pressure.


Recon found the llc south of DR

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA3-0613A-LAURA.png


The NHC also has the center south of DR.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2423 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:31 pm

MississippiWx wrote:
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MississippiWx wrote:I have yet to see any definitive proof of a center reformation south of Hispaniola. You guys are going to drive yourselves crazy trying to pick out a center tonight while it traverses Hispaniola. It's still a large low pressure area with more than one vortex rotating around the larger area of low pressure.


Recon found the llc south of DR

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA3-0613A-LAURA.png


I see what they found, but a cyclonic turn in the winds doesn't mean it's not just another Vort rotating around a common center. If you look at the rest of the data, the lowest pressures found by recon were north of Hispaniola, not south.


I noticed that. But they didn’t seem to find an llc anywhere else and the strongest wind has been pretty far north the whole time. Someone else said that there may have been another center up north that got crushed and a new one developed to the center. We’ll have to see what the nhc says at 11.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2424 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:33 pm

wx98 wrote:
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MississippiWx wrote:I have yet to see any definitive proof of a center reformation south of Hispaniola. You guys are going to drive yourselves crazy trying to pick out a center tonight while it traverses Hispaniola. It's still a large low pressure area with more than one vortex rotating around the larger area of low pressure.


Recon found the llc south of DR

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA3-0613A-LAURA.png


The NHC also has the center south of DR.


Yup and the one recon found is just west of the 8pm nhc position so I think that’s probably it
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2425 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:35 pm

wx98 wrote:
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MississippiWx wrote:I have yet to see any definitive proof of a center reformation south of Hispaniola. You guys are going to drive yourselves crazy trying to pick out a center tonight while it traverses Hispaniola. It's still a large low pressure area with more than one vortex rotating around the larger area of low pressure.


Recon found the llc south of DR

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA3-0613A-LAURA.png


The NHC also has the center south of DR.


Not at the location that recon found an eddy, however. The center of the broad low is likely directly over Hispaniola now, or straddling the Southern coastline.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2426 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:44 pm

HWRF nailed the convective pattern again.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2427 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:45 pm

11:00 PM AST Sat Aug 22
Location: 18.3°N 69.6°W
Moving: WNW at 16 mph
Min pressure: 1003 mb
Max sustained: 50 mph
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2428 Postby rigbyrigz » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:45 pm

Eric Webb points out 20 knots of MID-level shear affecting the vortex showing up South of DR on recon, so maybe Jamaica mistake to call it the new LLC rather than just one of a few nascent vortices spinning about?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2429 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:46 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2430 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:48 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2431 Postby BobHarlem » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:48 pm

rigbyrigz wrote:Eric Webb points out 20 knots of MID-level shear affecting the vortex showing up South of DR on recon, so maybe Jamaica mistake to call it the new LLC rather than just one of a few nascent vortices spinning about?


11PM Position is basically on the southern coast of DR, near Boca Chica.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2432 Postby SoupBone » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:50 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2433 Postby wx98 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:51 pm

MississippiWx wrote:
wx98 wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
Recon found the llc south of DR

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_NOAA3-0613A-LAURA.png


The NHC also has the center south of DR.


Not at the location that recon found an eddy, however. The center of the broad low is likely directly over Hispaniola now, or straddling the Southern coastline.


The advisory location is almost the same place that recon found the center...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2434 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:52 pm


Western edge of the cone reminds me of Lili

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2435 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:52 pm

supercane4867 wrote:HWRF nailed the convective pattern again.

https://i.imgur.com/PD3Pb6y.png

https://i.imgur.com/z6am4mC.jpg


I find that incredible. I wish I understood how it’s able to do this.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2436 Postby eastcoastFL » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:54 pm

wx98 wrote:
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wx98 wrote:
The NHC also has the center south of DR.


Not at the location that recon found an eddy, however. The center of the broad low is likely directly over Hispaniola now, or straddling the Southern coastline.


The advisory location is almost the same place that recon found the center...



It’s about a half a degree north just south of the coast. Nhc puts it at 18.3n
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2437 Postby supercane4867 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:55 pm

If Laura manages to keep its center offshore of Cuba(more likely to the south), it could start to ramp up before entering the Gulf.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2438 Postby Highteeld » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:58 pm

Peak winds increased to 90 mph by the NHC.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2439 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Aug 22, 2020 9:59 pm

wx98 wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:
wx98 wrote:
The NHC also has the center south of DR.


Not at the location that recon found an eddy, however. The center of the broad low is likely directly over Hispaniola now, or straddling the Southern coastline.


The advisory location is almost the same place that recon found the center...


You have a much more liberal definition of a center fix than I do. I see no center on this recon mission.

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2440 Postby ColdMiser123 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:01 pm

MississippiWx wrote:
wx98 wrote:
MississippiWx wrote:
Not at the location that recon found an eddy, however. The center of the broad low is likely directly over Hispaniola now, or straddling the Southern coastline.


The advisory location is almost the same place that recon found the center...


You have a much more liberal definition of a center fix than I do. I see no center on this recon mission.

https://i.imgur.com/n6eczJS.png


Yeah, recon found a broad low level low structure associated with the wave envelope, and no sharp wind shift. It's that same broad structure that will likely play into Laura's favor in maintaining intensity while crossing the islands over the next 1-2 days.
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