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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2401 Postby ConvergenceZone » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:46 pm

emeraldislenc wrote:What bothers me sometimes on this site is that people act like they are disappointed that the storm may not be as strong. After going through several storms here we need to remind ourselves of the pain and suffering people go through during a hurricane. If it weakens we should all be happy. It is not a football
Game but an event that has a profound impact upon people.



I think that most people don't, but there are those who are thrill seekers.....and people need to to realize that catastrophic hurricanes can affect the economy and thus effect you in a non-direct way. I admit that's it's a dopamine rush see the manifestation of a hurricane from a wave to a strong hurricane, but at the same time, I usually feel sick to my stomach when watching the after videos and pictures. Knowing that many cats and dogs probably drowned and people lost their homes and got flooded away. It's fascinating, but the end result always feels sickening.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2402 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:51 pm

Okay then maybe I need new glasses.

DestinHurricane wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Okay not a mirage, Sally has begun to move due west.
I don’t think that was in tonight’s script.

I'm not seeing that. Looks pretty stationary still.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2403 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:52 pm

Am I the only one that thinks she's looking alright right now? CDO never warmed up fully and now there's more deep convection firing NW of the center. Also appears the eye may be trying to clear on IR.
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Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2404 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:55 pm

Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.
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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2405 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:57 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.


NHC likes to keep things for the sake of continuity. If E shifts persist though I would expect it to be canceled.
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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2406 Postby Stormcenter » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:00 pm

Read the 10pm discussion. Sally hasn’t really
been behaving and following her track.

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.
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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2407 Postby bella_may » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:02 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.

I figured the New Orleans NWS would’ve reduced their intensity forecast by now but they’ve been pretty silent. Tells me that they don’t trust the models right now
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2408 Postby TallahasseeMan » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:04 pm

I’ve been pretty bullish on Sally, but she’s looking rough tonight. Still a lot of time so anything’s possible. But I’d say there’s a ceiling to this thing that wasn’t there 6 hours ago.


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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2409 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:10 pm

Stormcenter wrote:Read the 10pm discussion. Sally hasn’t really
been behaving and following her track.

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.


I hear ya...we aren’t in the cone. What is the NHC trying to tell us?
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2410 Postby Janie2006 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:15 pm

I’m as much of an enthusiast as the next girl, but I *am not* enthusiastic about this thing sitting right on my doorstep and waiting to bring hours of wind, rain, and surge to Mobtown, and the inevitable human misery it shall surely cause. Hours of tropical storm winds alone can cause massive power outages, for example. I’m rooting for degradation and weakening, no matter how unlikely. The way I see it, if we get out of this with 10-12 inches of rain we should count ourselves lucky.

Carry on with the RI posts, I’ll be watching data like the proverbial hawk.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2411 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:16 pm

Hot tower firing off NW of center.
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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2412 Postby Florabamaman » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:17 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Read the 10pm discussion. Sally hasn’t really
been behaving and following her track.

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.


I hear ya...we aren’t in the cone. What is the NHC trying to tell us?


I wasn't in the cone until the 4pm advisory. The situation can change...rapidly.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2413 Postby Cyclenall » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:18 pm

What evidence do we have that Sally will strengthen in the next 12 hours? Is there any. Its got that look of upwelling cooler water and lost its mojo.

I'm puzzled by metro N.O being under a hurricane warning still too, I think I know why but its probably not something I'd keep because the public won't forget this. What are the chances of hurricane-force winds actually affecting N.O? I'd say tiny...very tiny! Now we'll watch Sally do that very thing :oops: .
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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2414 Postby bayoubebe » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:18 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.

Tell me
About it! I’m
North of
NOLA and we had Mandatory Evacuation orders. Why?
They missed the forecast track again! Second time schools have shut down prematurely on a weird CoVId schedule already. What concerns me is people may not take the warnings seriously now when they really need to. No lectures about better to be safe. Yes, I know. Still frustrating.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2415 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:22 pm

Stop it with the NHC bashing posts. NHC had the data and the data at the time pointed to a NOLA landfall. NHC states what average track errors are in their discussions. You can't blame the NHC for this, they tried their best given the data presented to them.
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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2416 Postby Sean in New Orleans » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:22 pm

bayoubebe wrote:
Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.

Tell me
About it! I’m
North of
NOLA and we had Mandatory Evacuation orders. Why?
They missed the forecast track again! Second time schools have shut down prematurely on a weird CoVId schedule already. What concerns me is people may not take the warnings seriously now when they really need to. No lectures about better to be safe. Yes, I know. Still frustrating.


Have to take it seriously always, but, if we aren’t even in the cone drop the Hurricane Warning..unless they think we will have hurricane conditions. That would be odd..we’re on the Western side.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2417 Postby Janie2006 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:22 pm

Well, she isn’t exactly ”behaving”, as someone pointed out. Someone is going to get socked, we just don’t know exactly where. Given the ummmm “uneven” performance of the models this season perhaps NHC is trying to cover every possible base.
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Re: Question about New Orleans and the forecasting with Sally

#2418 Postby Florabamaman » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:24 pm

bayoubebe wrote:
Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.

Tell me
About it! I’m
North of
NOLA and we had Mandatory Evacuation orders. Why?
They missed the forecast track again! Second time schools have shut down prematurely on a weird CoVId schedule already. What concerns me is people may not take the warnings seriously now when they really need to. No lectures about better to be safe. Yes, I know. Still frustrating.


If you think that's frustrating, imagine being a forecaster at the NHC, trying to save lives & property, while simultaneously attempting not to ensue panic, all while trying to pinpoint the exact location, give or take a few miles, of where an act of God will occur. That will make for a long day at the office, I'm sure.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2419 Postby tailgater » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:24 pm

Sean in New Orleans wrote:
Stormcenter wrote:Read the 10pm discussion. Sally hasn’t really
been behaving and following her track.

Sean in New Orleans wrote:Serious question..Why is Metropolitan New Orleans, a City of 1.4 million people metro and almost 3 million within 50 miles of the Central Business District under a Hurricane Warning and we aren’t even in the cone? I just got home after running several errands and there are literally thousands of cars parked on the neutral ground waiting for a storm and flash floods. It’s ridiculous and is confusing to the general public. Is this proper forecasting? I doubt we will have hardly any rain. Maybe breezy..why? It’s not happening here, thank God! How about telling the people here waiting and concerned about a storm. They know we are under a hurricane warning. Why are we? Let’s get it together. Keep it real.


I hear ya...we aren’t in the cone. What is the NHC trying to tell us?


The steering currents are VERY weak and it’s drifting westward, I think they are paying it safe until they actually see I north or northeast movement.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2420 Postby Janie2006 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:28 pm

tailgater wrote:The steering currents are VERY weak and it’s drifting westward, I think they are paying it safe until they actually see I north or northeast movement.


Hope they brought the blankets and hot chocolate. Could be awhile.
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