BoB: AMPHAN - Post-Tropical

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Message
Author
User avatar
Highteeld
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2097
Age: 40
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:10 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#241 Postby Highteeld » Sun May 17, 2020 8:57 pm

First vis shots this morning

Image
2 likes   
Very useful information on the Dvorak Technique --

https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf

User avatar
Yellow Evan
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 15960
Age: 25
Joined: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:48 pm
Location: Henderson, Nevada/Honolulu, HI
Contact:

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#242 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 17, 2020 8:59 pm

Image
0 likes   

Chris90
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 640
Age: 34
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:36 pm

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#243 Postby Chris90 » Sun May 17, 2020 9:02 pm

aspen wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
aspen wrote:A secondary eyewall is trying to form around the tiny, tight inner one. Will an EWRC start to take hold within the next 12 hours, or will that bit of shear from the east delay it?
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/products/storms/2020io01/amsusr89/2020io01_amsusr89_202005172307.gif


Shear can delay or disrupt formative eyewall cycles too, as we saw with Hurricane Michael.

130 kt seems reasonable, although I think the pressure is probably more like 935 mb.

Didn’t the same thing happen with Dorian? I thought I heard its EWRC was prevented by a bit of shear, allowing it to bomb out before landfall.


I know with Dorian I remember a pro-met theorizing on Twitter that they thought dry air to his north might be preventing outer rain bands from fully establishing themselves to get the ERC process kicked off.
0 likes   
Solar Aquarian
Lunar Cancerian
:uarrow: Sagittarian

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8061
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#244 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 9:19 pm

Looking a little squished:
Image
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

shah83
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 269
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:55 pm

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#245 Postby shah83 » Sun May 17, 2020 9:20 pm

pretty firm ridge to the east, no?
0 likes   

User avatar
1900hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6044
Age: 33
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:04 pm
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#246 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun May 17, 2020 9:21 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
aspen wrote:A secondary eyewall is trying to form around the tiny, tight inner one. Will an EWRC start to take hold within the next 12 hours, or will that bit of shear from the east delay it?
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/products/storms/2020io01/amsusr89/2020io01_amsusr89_202005172307.gif


Shear can delay or disrupt formative eyewall cycles too, as we saw with Hurricane Michael.

130 kt seems reasonable, although I think the pressure is probably more like 935 mb.

Just because I'm curious, why do you think the pressure is considerably higher? I actually think I prefer the lower pressure in this case.
0 likes   
Contract Meteorologist. TAMU & MSST. Fiercely authentic, one of a kind. We are all given free will, so choose a life meant to be lived. We are the Masters of our own Stories.
Opinions expressed are mine alone.

Follow me on Twitter at @1900hurricane : Read blogs at https://1900hurricane.wordpress.com/

CrazyC83
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 33398
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:57 pm
Location: Deep South, for the first time!

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#247 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun May 17, 2020 9:23 pm

1900hurricane wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
aspen wrote:A secondary eyewall is trying to form around the tiny, tight inner one. Will an EWRC start to take hold within the next 12 hours, or will that bit of shear from the east delay it?
https://rammb-data.cira.colostate.edu/tc_realtime/products/storms/2020io01/amsusr89/2020io01_amsusr89_202005172307.gif


Shear can delay or disrupt formative eyewall cycles too, as we saw with Hurricane Michael.

130 kt seems reasonable, although I think the pressure is probably more like 935 mb.

Just because I'm curious, why do you think the pressure is considerably higher? I actually think I prefer the lower pressure in this case.


I think the reason is because it's near a ridge and it's at a very low latitude.
2 likes   

User avatar
1900hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6044
Age: 33
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:04 pm
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#248 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun May 17, 2020 9:23 pm

Overall shape actually reminds me of Hagupit '14 somewhat.
2 likes   
Contract Meteorologist. TAMU & MSST. Fiercely authentic, one of a kind. We are all given free will, so choose a life meant to be lived. We are the Masters of our own Stories.
Opinions expressed are mine alone.

Follow me on Twitter at @1900hurricane : Read blogs at https://1900hurricane.wordpress.com/

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15461
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#249 Postby Kingarabian » Sun May 17, 2020 9:28 pm

Yeah I agree that this is leaning towards that monster that we know in Haiyan -- IF it ever warms that eye further. I see a lot of similarities simply with this insane amount of CDG. But this is just in terms of intense CDG. Definitely not as a graceful as Patricia though. I hope everyone on the Bengaly coast is preparing.
1 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

User avatar
1900hurricane
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 6044
Age: 33
Joined: Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:04 pm
Location: Houston, TX
Contact:

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Very Severe Cyclonic Storm

#250 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun May 17, 2020 9:28 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
Shear can delay or disrupt formative eyewall cycles too, as we saw with Hurricane Michael.

130 kt seems reasonable, although I think the pressure is probably more like 935 mb.

Just because I'm curious, why do you think the pressure is considerably higher? I actually think I prefer the lower pressure in this case.


I think the reason is because it's near a ridge and it's at a very low latitude.

At 13ºN, it is fairly low latitude (about that of Guam), but ridging in this case appears to be an upper level feature in the 200-400 mb layer. It doesn't even show up in 500 mb charts. Environmental pressures are also very low with the switching monsoon if model output is to be believed. I actually think JTWC's 919 mb pressure is a straight KZC rip.

Image
Last edited by 1900hurricane on Sun May 17, 2020 9:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
1 likes   
Contract Meteorologist. TAMU & MSST. Fiercely authentic, one of a kind. We are all given free will, so choose a life meant to be lived. We are the Masters of our own Stories.
Opinions expressed are mine alone.

Follow me on Twitter at @1900hurricane : Read blogs at https://1900hurricane.wordpress.com/

User avatar
Dylan
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 337
Age: 29
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 9:50 am
Location: New Orleans, LA

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#251 Postby Dylan » Sun May 17, 2020 9:30 pm

0 likes   
Georges('98), Allison('01), Isidore('02), Lili('02), Frances('04) Ivan('04), Cindy('05), Katrina('05), Rita('05), Gustav('08), Isaac('12), Matthew('16), Harvey('17), Irma('17), Nate ('17), Ida ('21).

User avatar
Kingarabian
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 15461
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:06 am
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#252 Postby Kingarabian » Sun May 17, 2020 9:31 pm

1900hurricane wrote:Overall shape actually reminds me of Hagupit '14 somewhat.

Image
1 likes   
RIP Kobe Bryant

Astromanía
Category 2
Category 2
Posts: 741
Age: 25
Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:34 pm
Location: Monterrey, N.L, México

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#253 Postby Astromanía » Sun May 17, 2020 9:38 pm

I really wonder how evacuation will take place with this currently pandemic, I'm afraid an huge cluster of cases will appear after this monster make landfall, so not only the devastation this Cyclone will produce by itself but now it's indirectly effects expanding the Coronavirus, a premonition what will happen in the Américas this hurricane season, a disaster
0 likes   

User avatar
Jr0d
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1177
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:52 am
Location: Cayo Hueso

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#254 Postby Jr0d » Sun May 17, 2020 9:44 pm

This is a very serious situation. Not only are the winds severe, this area is incredibly vulnerable to storm surge and the forecast takes it to densely populated areas with poor infrastructure....not to mention the pandemic.

This is a catastrophy unfolding. Worse than anythingbwe can imagine in the US from a hurricane.
0 likes   

User avatar
Highteeld
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2097
Age: 40
Joined: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:10 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#255 Postby Highteeld » Sun May 17, 2020 9:45 pm

Eye temp increasing

Image
4 likes   
Very useful information on the Dvorak Technique --

https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf

CrazyC83
Professional-Met
Professional-Met
Posts: 33398
Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:57 pm
Location: Deep South, for the first time!

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#256 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun May 17, 2020 9:49 pm

Jr0d wrote:This is a very serious situation. Not only are the winds severe, this area is incredibly vulnerable to storm surge and the forecast takes it to densely populated areas with poor infrastructure....not to mention the pandemic.

This is a catastrophy unfolding. Worse than anythingbwe can imagine in the US from a hurricane.


It's literally the worst case scenario in many ways - both from direct and indirect deaths - if it holds up like this. Emergency managers surely have their hands all tied right now. But the cyclone is a much bigger threat than the virus.
2 likes   

User avatar
Jr0d
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 1177
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:52 am
Location: Cayo Hueso

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#257 Postby Jr0d » Sun May 17, 2020 10:00 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:It's literally the worst case scenario in many ways - both from direct and indirect deaths - if it holds up like this. Emergency managers surely have their hands all tied right now. But the cyclone is a much bigger threat than the virus.


I know what past storms have done to that area. Hopefully the warning is out and people are moving to high, stable ground with a strong structure.

This may be the worse storm I have ever seen in terms of potential damage and fatalities.
0 likes   

User avatar
aspen
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8061
Joined: Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#258 Postby aspen » Sun May 17, 2020 10:18 pm

I think the eye might be starting to cool a bit again.
0 likes   
Irene '11 Sandy '12 Hermine '16 5/15/2018 Derecho Fay '20 Isaias '20 Elsa '21 Henri '21 Ida '21

I am only a meteorology enthusiast who knows a decent amount about tropical cyclones. Look to the professional mets, the NHC, or your local weather office for the best information.

shah83
Category 1
Category 1
Posts: 269
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:55 pm

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#259 Postby shah83 » Sun May 17, 2020 10:31 pm

The ICON 00z run is terrible--the storm *stalls* over the Himalayan foothills in Darjeeling and Assam and keep raining for a while.
0 likes   

User avatar
doomhaMwx
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2400
Age: 25
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:01 am
Location: Baguio/Benguet, Philippines
Contact:

Re: BoB: AMPHAN - Extremely Severe Cyclonic Storm

#260 Postby doomhaMwx » Sun May 17, 2020 10:53 pm

IMD forecasts a supercyclonic storm within the next 12hrs (for those unfamiliar, that is the highest on the IMD TC scale).

Image
TC ADVISORY
TCAC: NEW DELHI
DTG: 20200518/0000Z
TC: AMPHAN
NR: 09
PSN: N1312 E08618
MOV: N08KT
C: 950HPA
MAX WIND: 100KT
FCST PSN+06HR: 18/0600Z N1400 E08624
FCST MAX WIND +6HRS: 110 KT
FCST PSN+12HR: 18/1200Z N1436 E08630
FCST MAX WIND +12HRS: 120 KT
FCST PSN+18HR: 18/1800Z N1512 E08636
FCST MAX WIND +18HRS: 125 KT
FCST PSN+24HR: 19/0000Z N1554 E08648
FCST MAX WIND +24HRS: 120 KT
RMK: NIL
NXT MSG: 20200518/0900Z
TOO: 180800HRS IST
0 likes   
Like my content? Consider giving a tip.


Return to “2020”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests