ATL: LAURA - Post-Tropical - Discussion
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
jlauderdal wrote:before we diss the gfs run, the hwrf has liked this lets stay to the right idea for days now and to be fair its done the best so far...i rip the gfs and hwrf often but maybe they are on to somethingConvergenceZone wrote:Looks like the gfs wants to ride just north of the islands keeping Laura from degrading but also keeping her from bombing also for now. No help for her meeting with the Florida straights and gulf.
The GFS is just being stupid. If this went North of the islands, it would possibly Bomb out as Levi and several Mets suggested it could. I just don’t see it going North of the islands at this point. It’s getting way too close already
I’m just referring to the GFS not potentially Bombing it out like the professionals were saying could happen if it stays North of the islands
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I agree with the poster/posters who show the circulation north of Rico. Once convection fires the MLC will either follow or die off
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Gfs brings Cat 1 Marco east of Nola and 964mb Laura west of Nola in consecutive days...


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Last few frames of IR look like Laura might be ready to actually gain some latitude... could be wrong
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Shouldn’t recon be in the storm pretty soon?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Cat5James wrote:Last few frames of IR look like Laura might be ready to actually gain some latitude... could be wrong
Looks like it on here too.
https://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu ... 403&y=7101
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Miami to Ft Meyers need to watch this. Anything possible at this stage.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Special update.
Tropical Storm Laura Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132020
1200 PM AST Sat Aug 22 2020
...LAURA STRENGTHENS SOME...
Recent satellite-derived wind data indicate that the maximum
sustained winds in Tropical Storm Laura have increased to near 45
mph (75 km/h) with higher gusts. These winds are occurring mainly
in a band to the south of Vieques and eastern Puerto Rico.
SUMMARY OF 1200 PM AST...1600 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...17.8N 67.2W
ABOUT 40 MI...65 KM WSW OF PONCE PUERTO RICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH...75 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES
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Tropical Storm Laura Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132020
1200 PM AST Sat Aug 22 2020
...LAURA STRENGTHENS SOME...
Recent satellite-derived wind data indicate that the maximum
sustained winds in Tropical Storm Laura have increased to near 45
mph (75 km/h) with higher gusts. These winds are occurring mainly
in a band to the south of Vieques and eastern Puerto Rico.
SUMMARY OF 1200 PM AST...1600 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...17.8N 67.2W
ABOUT 40 MI...65 KM WSW OF PONCE PUERTO RICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH...75 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES
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Forecaster Pasch
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Got my eyes on moving right into Hurricane Alley: Florida.
Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
eastcoastFL wrote:Gfs brings Cat 1 Marco east of Nola and 964mb Laura west of Nola in consecutive days...
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2020082212/gfs_mslp_pcpn_watl_18.png
That would be insanity to the max! Then there's always the chance these storms can get stronger than expected
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I am watching this storm closely. Even though the GFS shifted east, I would not be surprised if the ridge is stronger than currently anticipated. Laura needs to go away.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
jlauderdal wrote:before we diss the gfs run, the hwrf has liked this lets stay to the right idea for days now and to be fair its done the best so far...i rip the gfs and hwrf often but maybe they are on to somethingConvergenceZone wrote:Looks like the gfs wants to ride just north of the islands keeping Laura from degrading but also keeping her from bombing also for now. No help for her meeting with the Florida straights and gulf.
The GFS is just being stupid. If this went North of the islands, it would possibly Bomb out as Levi and several Mets suggested it could. I just don’t see it going North of the islands at this point. It’s getting way too close already
HWRF crossroad is next 12 hrs, will it jump N and follow it’s way R outlier track well above the big islands or will it come in line and go through or skirt big islands... We should know maybe 12z or 18z...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
saved loop


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Interesting to note that the banding coming up through the BVI area is still obviously rotating around the LLC to the northwest of PR. I would imagine that, as Aric said, once it gets north of the Mona Passage, banding may pick up around that LLC before it takes over.


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
galaxy401 wrote:Special update.
Tropical Storm Laura Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL132020
1200 PM AST Sat Aug 22 2020
...LAURA STRENGTHENS SOME...
Recent satellite-derived wind data indicate that the maximum
sustained winds in Tropical Storm Laura have increased to near 45
mph (75 km/h) with higher gusts. These winds are occurring mainly
in a band to the south of Vieques and eastern Puerto Rico.
SUMMARY OF 1200 PM AST...1600 UTC...INFORMATION
---------------------------------------------------
LOCATION...17.8N 67.2W
ABOUT 40 MI...65 KM WSW OF PONCE PUERTO RICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...45 MPH...75 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 280 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1006 MB...29.71 INCHES
$$
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I am sorry I just don't see llc at that location. With Radar data why is this location being used? IMO we either go with the MLC which I think is reached the surface or the llc north of PR. Either one would fine for me but its not at 17.8N 67.2W.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/~mnissenbaum/RadarArchive/TJUA2/loop.html
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
T#s climbing again, weakening flag off for the first time since yesterday afternoon.
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ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.0
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm
----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 22 AUG 2020 Time : 155021 UTC
Lat : 17:51:14 N Lon : 67:01:18 W
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
2.5 / 995.8mb/ 35.0kt
Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
2.5 2.8 3.0
Center Temp : -49.7C Cloud Region Temp : -55.4C
Scene Type : CURVED BAND with 0.75 ARC in LT GRAY
Subtropical Adjustment : OFF
Extratropical Adjustment : OFF
Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION
Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method
Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 0.5T/hour
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF
C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 180nmi
- Environmental MSLP : 1010mb
Satellite Name : GOES16
Satellite Viewing Angle : 22.9 degrees
UW - CIMSS
ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
ADT-Version 9.0
Tropical Cyclone Intensity Algorithm
----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 22 AUG 2020 Time : 155021 UTC
Lat : 17:51:14 N Lon : 67:01:18 W
CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
2.5 / 995.8mb/ 35.0kt
Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
2.5 2.8 3.0
Center Temp : -49.7C Cloud Region Temp : -55.4C
Scene Type : CURVED BAND with 0.75 ARC in LT GRAY
Subtropical Adjustment : OFF
Extratropical Adjustment : OFF
Positioning Method : FORECAST INTERPOLATION
Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC
Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method
Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : 0.5T/hour
Weakening Flag : OFF
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF
C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
- Average 34 knot radii : 180nmi
- Environmental MSLP : 1010mb
Satellite Name : GOES16
Satellite Viewing Angle : 22.9 degrees
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
FLpanhandle91 wrote:Interesting to note that the banding coming up through the BVI area is still obviously rotating around the LLC to the northwest of PR. I would imagine that, as Aric said, once it gets north of the Mona Passage, banding may pick up around that LLC before it takes over.
Yeah, clearly you can see the inflow well with the LLC near the Mona Passage .
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Nice big image loop with both storms.
https://whirlwind.aos.wisc.edu/~wxp/goes16/vis_sqrt/goes16_gulf.html
https://whirlwind.aos.wisc.edu/~wxp/goes16/vis_sqrt/goes16_gulf.html
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Laura's MCL is clearly moving WNW per San Juan radar. Should pass over SE tip of PR then traverse north shore of DR. I'm expecting the LLCC to reform in the Atlantic off the coast of Hispaniola later tonight or tomorrow. Once the cyclone clears Hispaniola it should start to intensify at a steady rate. Still a threat to the Keys and north gulf coast. Just my opinion and not an official forecast.....MGC
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