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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#21 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:57 pm

CaribJam wrote:
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Pros,

1. The above says 10.7N and 34.0W
2. NHC has the "X" with 30/70 formation change at about 27W

Please explain.


NHC was watching two areas SW of CV Islands and decided to go with the most western one.


Thanks.

But does the formation chance remain the same?
Or given the expected interaction/merging of the two areas they will adjust the chance sometime later?


The latter.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#22 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:01 pm

SO we have the EURO operational as the right outlier.

only model that weakens the ridge over the western atlantic to curve east of florida with a digging trough.

ICON, UKMET, CMC, GFS, and the like. all split the trough over the SE US and have building ridging which holds allowing 98L to reach western trough central gulf. before it round the ridge with no trough.

luckily we are in flag flapping mode past 3 days.. so we can just have fun with the models.


all in all though ... the models finally kick out the east trough.. and thats all that needs to be said for a few days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#23 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:02 pm

So maybe Josephine remnants continue south and join with 97L and the whole mess moistens the environment for 98L which would be a weaker Caribbean runner given the slightly early season conditions?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#24 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:10 pm

cycloneye wrote:
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cycloneye wrote:
98L INVEST 200817 1800 10.7N 34.0W ATL 25


Thread at Talking Tropics forum that was the topic for this area.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=121167


Pros,

1. The above says 10.7N and 34.0W
2. NHC has the "X" with 30/70 formation change at about 27W

Please explain.


NHC was watching two areas SW of CV Islands and decided to go with the most western one.

In the last discussion the NHC stated that they thought the systems would combine to form a long broad circulation. That looks less likely to me now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#25 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:14 pm

Considering this time of day is supposed to be diurnal minimum, the recent convective trends suggest this disturbance may not be all that far away from becoming a TC. Let's see if convection holds overnight. This is definitely a storm everyone should be keeping an eye on.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#26 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:25 pm

Geeze this may be a TD tonight if trends continue. So much for this lull we were supposed to have.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#28 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:32 pm

That upper pattern in the Bahamas reminds me too much of Dorian.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#29 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:33 pm

Anytime you see a TC get under a ridge heading west it's hard not to think of Andrew.
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#30 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:36 pm

So basically this is going to travel all the way across the Atlantic in a weeks time? Wouldn’t this need to slow down in order to close off or maintain a circulation? Sounds a lot like pre-Isaias.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#31 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:44 pm

SFLcane wrote:Anytime you see a TC get under a ridge heading west it's hard not to think of Andrew.

That's Joe Bastardi's go to line in his reasoning for TC strength. "TC under a ridge". I think it does apply here.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#32 Postby drezee » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:51 pm

SFLcane wrote:Anytime you see a TC get under a ridge heading west it's hard not to think of Andrew.

Optimizes convergence and gradient...lets hope the 500mb is off.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#33 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:59 pm

Some good analogs: Floyd 1999, Frances 2005, Andrew 1992, David 1979, Donna 1960. Looks like the setup is similar to these storms that all occurred in august or early September.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#34 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:08 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
SFLcane wrote:Anytime you see a TC get under a ridge heading west it's hard not to think of Andrew.

That's Joe Bastardi's go to line in his reasoning for TC strength. "TC under a ridge". I think it does apply here.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#35 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:28 pm

going with 50-80 at 8pm.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#36 Postby johngaltfla » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:40 pm

Yah. Uh, no. My concern is that our friend the Bermuda High intensifies towards the end of the 5 day forecast period. No indications yet, but we do not need a GoM storm now. One monster every 20 years is plenty, thank you very much. :double:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#37 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:43 pm

Based on satelite I will go with 50/80 at 8 PM TWO.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#38 Postby jaxfladude » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:44 pm

So this is the true start of a parade of systems? Scary to think what is in store with this system and future ones plus 97L potentially..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#39 Postby Blown Away » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:46 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Discussion

#40 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:02 pm

Just making my mark here in case this thread goes over several hundred pages! Long trackers like these make us spend up to two weeks watching it.

This wave looks very vigorous already. We keep saying that the next wave is going to open the floodgates but 98L has a good chance at actually doing it.
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