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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#21 Postby Evil Jeremy » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:41 pm

STRiZZY wrote:Can anyone point me in the right direction for a list of computer model run times? I tried the search bar but couldn't find anything.
Trying to set up some alarms on my phone so I'll know when to watch them roll in for this potential TC. Thank you.


I used to keep this info in my signature lol.

Roughly:
GFS: 5:30/11:30 AM and PM
ECMWF: 1:45 AM and PM
UKMET/HWRF/CMC/NAVGEM/ICON: 12-1/7-8 AM and PM

That’s when they start, takes up to an hour to get a full run done.

Ensembles roughly 90 min after operational run, IIRC.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#22 Postby STRiZZY » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:50 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
STRiZZY wrote:Can anyone point me in the right direction for a list of computer model run times? I tried the search bar but couldn't find anything.
Trying to set up some alarms on my phone so I'll know when to watch them roll in for this potential TC. Thank you.


I used to keep this info in my signature lol.

Roughly:
GFS: 11:30/5:30 AM and PM
ECMWF: 1:30 AM and PM
HWRF/CMC/NAVGEM/ICON: 12-1/7-8 AM and PM

That’s when they start, takes up to an hour to get a full run done.

Ensembles roughly 90 min after operational run, IIRC.


Thank you. I usually memorize it over the season but then forget it come nov-may lol
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#23 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:52 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
STRiZZY wrote:Can anyone point me in the right direction for a list of computer model run times? I tried the search bar but couldn't find anything.
Trying to set up some alarms on my phone so I'll know when to watch them roll in for this potential TC. Thank you.


I used to keep this info in my signature lol.

Roughly:
GFS: 11:30/5:30 AM and PM
ECMWF: 1:30 AM and PM
HWRF/CMC/NAVGEM/ICON: 12-1/7-8 AM and PM

That’s when they start, takes up to an hour to get a full run done.

Ensembles roughly 90 min after operational run, IIRC.

I thought the Euro ran at 1:45 AM/PM?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#24 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:52 pm

The 18Z GFS continues to be bearish about this wave. Looks like a SAL surge from the east ultimately squashes this wave but there is a closed isobar now:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#25 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:55 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
STRiZZY wrote:Can anyone point me in the right direction for a list of computer model run times? I tried the search bar but couldn't find anything.
Trying to set up some alarms on my phone so I'll know when to watch them roll in for this potential TC. Thank you.


I used to keep this info in my signature lol.

Roughly:
GFS: 11:30/5:30 AM and PM
ECMWF: 1:30 AM and PM
HWRF/CMC/NAVGEM/ICON: 12-1/7-8 AM and PM

That’s when they start, takes up to an hour to get a full run done.

Ensembles roughly 90 min after operational run, IIRC.

I thought the Euro ran at 1:45 AM/PM?


Yep 1:45 and Ukmet around 12:15 am
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#26 Postby jfk08c » Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:57 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
STRiZZY wrote:Can anyone point me in the right direction for a list of computer model run times? I tried the search bar but couldn't find anything.
Trying to set up some alarms on my phone so I'll know when to watch them roll in for this potential TC. Thank you.


I used to keep this info in my signature lol.

Roughly:
GFS: 11:30/5:30 AM and PM
ECMWF: 1:30 AM and PM
HWRF/CMC/NAVGEM/ICON: 12-1/7-8 AM and PM

That’s when they start, takes up to an hour to get a full run done.

Ensembles roughly 90 min after operational run, IIRC.

I thought the Euro ran at 1:45 AM/PM?

I made this chart a few seasons ago to keep track of all the times. Hopefully it helps someone
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#27 Postby SoupBone » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:02 pm

gatorcane wrote:The 18Z GFS continues to be bearish about this wave. Looks like a SAL surge from the east ultimately squashes this wave but there is a closed isobar now:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnpQb16S/gfs-mslpa-Norm-eatl-17.png



Which is why you can't completely dismiss the GFS. SAL is still a player in July, early August.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#28 Postby toad strangler » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:26 pm

SoupBone wrote:
gatorcane wrote:The 18Z GFS continues to be bearish about this wave. Looks like a SAL surge from the east ultimately squashes this wave but there is a closed isobar now:

https://i.postimg.cc/ZnpQb16S/gfs-mslpa-Norm-eatl-17.png



Which is why you can't completely dismiss the GFS. SAL is still a player in July, early August.



The GFS hasn't seen squat this entire month. But yeah, can't completely ignore.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#29 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:28 pm

And finally we see some GFS ensembles with development. A few look like they end up strong. Similar tracks to the EPS:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#30 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:29 pm

Yikes, the GFS really is playing catch up with the other models.
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Model Runs Cheat Sheet:
GFS (5:30 AM/PM, 11:30 AM/PM)
HWRF, GFDL, UKMET, NAVGEM (6:30-8:00 AM/PM, 12:30-2:00 AM/PM)
ECMWF (1:45 AM/PM)

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#31 Postby Highteeld » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:31 pm

SHIPS is forecasting a cat 2 a week out from now

* GFS version *
* ATLANTIC 2020 SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* IR SAT DATA AVAILABLE, OHC AVAILABLE *
* INVEST AL922020 07/24/20 18 UTC *

TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120 132 144 156 168
V (KT) NO LAND 20 21 22 23 24 27 33 39 45 50 57 63 69 74 80 86 90
V (KT) LAND 20 21 22 23 24 27 33 39 45 50 57 63 69 74 80 86 90
V (KT) LGEM 20 20 20 20 20 21 21 23 24 25 26 27 28 30 32 36 39
Storm Type TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP TROP
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#32 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:32 pm

gatorcane wrote:And finally we see some GFS ensembles with development. A few look like they end up strong. Similar tracks to the EPS:

https://i.postimg.cc/0NvDFhyS/gfs-ememb-lowlocs-eatl-21.png

The GFS is finally waking up and smelling the roses! This model just can’t seem to latch onto anything this year. Yes it got Cristobal but that’s about it!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#33 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:43 pm

That’s scary if the GFS is actually seeing something :double:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#34 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:45 pm

Cpv17 wrote:That’s scary if the GFS is actually seeing something :double:

Every model (or their ensembles) are onboard at the current time.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#35 Postby SFLcane » Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:58 pm

Very high probability this becomes a TD 85-90%

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#36 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:08 pm

SFLcane wrote:Very high probability this becomes a TD 85-90%

https://iili.io/dI0Aj2.png


Yeah and another one behind it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#37 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:56 pm

18z NAVGEM is starting to agree with the Euro and ICON, and shows development within 5 days instead of over a week out.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#38 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:55 pm

The NAVGEM has been ATROCIOUS with Gonzalo, so I take its run with a grain of salt.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#39 Postby aspen » Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:56 pm

HurricaneFrances04 wrote:The NAVGEM has been ATROCIOUS with Gonzalo, so I take its run with a grain of salt.

Oh it’s been absolutely terrible with it, but at least it’s on the same page as the Euro, ICON, UKMET, and JMA for 92L.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#40 Postby CyclonicFury » Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:59 pm

GFS might be starting to cave, it is showing a much more well defined vortex than previous runs.
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