ATL: SALLY - Post-Tropical - Discussion
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
I wonder if the 12z models will have the relocation. I'm not sure they will have time to put that data in
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
NHC had 28.4°N so the latitude is alright it is just the 87.4°W that will need an adjustment
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Aric Dunn wrote:Hey look if reformed to the ENE>. go figure
now the track changes will get interesting
Velocities have really jumped around that center as well. Obviously well aloft since it’s so far from the radar site, but the uptick is the important takeaway
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
My theory last night was a more northward track early would result in a more westward landfall location due to it being embedded in a more easterly steering current for longer. The models with the hardest turn to the right kept this trucking along to the west and stalling just southeast of Louisiana Before turning northeast. I guess my theory will be put to the test now. 

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Now I still doubt that Sally will be a major, but a relocation under the deep convection is the worst possible thing to happen in terms of impacts and future strengthening
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Interesting warm spot in the middle of all that convection on the IR. Is she trying to form an eye around the relocated center?
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
pressure dropped 2 mb as well
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Recon just found a 995MB surface pressure without a wind flip.
Pressure gradient is tightened up considerably as the latest convective burst is centering the updraft channel.
We may need 6 hour averaging to get a better idea of track direction if Sally has stalled early Alabama might be getting wind and surge updates not that they shouldn't already be prepared for at least a cat 1. Best rule of thumb is prepare up one category. Here in FL Irma scared the crap out of me and almost ruined my new generator.
Pressure gradient is tightened up considerably as the latest convective burst is centering the updraft channel.
We may need 6 hour averaging to get a better idea of track direction if Sally has stalled early Alabama might be getting wind and surge updates not that they shouldn't already be prepared for at least a cat 1. Best rule of thumb is prepare up one category. Here in FL Irma scared the crap out of me and almost ruined my new generator.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Wonder if upwelling will come into play with Sally wobbling around in the same location?
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Chemmers wrote:I have a bad feeling about this now
Ditto!
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
NDG wrote:Sally, that girl, is getting going, amazing deep convection. We will probably see the LLC and MLC start getting stacked little by little during the day today.
https://i.imgur.com/cZFQUdn.gif
Are the concentric waves expanding outward from the middle of that convection the gravity waves someone posted about.
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Dean4Storms wrote:When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!
Not good for us. Good for NOLA.
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Blown Away wrote:Wonder if upwelling will come into play with Sally wobbling around in the same location?
It would take days at this intensity to upwell enough to weaken it.
upwelling wont be a problem with sally for its life time.
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Dean4Storms wrote:When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!
OK got it!
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
DestinHurricane wrote:Dean4Storms wrote:When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!
Not good for us. Good for NOLA.
Yep, we all were talking about that last night. Not sure if 12z has time ingest the relocation but 18z should
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
Thank you for posting this. Really nice.
Aric Dunn wrote:This is spectacular.. with radial gravity waves and "bow shock" at the leading edge. and the immense pressure wave that was thrust outwards!
https://i.ibb.co/pQ01Y73/CODNEXLAB-GOES-East-meso-meso1-02-12-52-Z-20200914-map-31-1n-3-300.gif
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion
tolakram wrote:The HWRF model shows the center bouncing around and very slow deepening for the next 12 to 18 hours after which it ramps up fast. I don't think we'll see much improvement today.
I'll quote myself

989mb at 11am and 974mb by 11pm is what the 6Z HWRF shows.
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