ATL: SALLY - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1621 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:46 am

I wonder if the 12z models will have the relocation. I'm not sure they will have time to put that data in
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1622 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:48 am

NHC had 28.4°N so the latitude is alright it is just the 87.4°W that will need an adjustment
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1623 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:48 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Hey look if reformed to the ENE>. go figure :P

now the track changes will get interesting

Velocities have really jumped around that center as well. Obviously well aloft since it’s so far from the radar site, but the uptick is the important takeaway
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1624 Postby MississippiWx » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:48 am

My theory last night was a more northward track early would result in a more westward landfall location due to it being embedded in a more easterly steering current for longer. The models with the hardest turn to the right kept this trucking along to the west and stalling just southeast of Louisiana Before turning northeast. I guess my theory will be put to the test now. :P
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1625 Postby tiger_deF » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:48 am

Now I still doubt that Sally will be a major, but a relocation under the deep convection is the worst possible thing to happen in terms of impacts and future strengthening
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1626 Postby Do_For_Love » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:50 am

Interesting warm spot in the middle of all that convection on the IR. Is she trying to form an eye around the relocated center?
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1627 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:50 am

All I can say is....... BOOM!
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1628 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:50 am

pressure dropped 2 mb as well
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1629 Postby Chemmers » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:51 am

I have a bad feeling about this now
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1630 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:51 am

Recon just found a 995MB surface pressure without a wind flip.
Pressure gradient is tightened up considerably as the latest convective burst is centering the updraft channel.
We may need 6 hour averaging to get a better idea of track direction if Sally has stalled early Alabama might be getting wind and surge updates not that they shouldn't already be prepared for at least a cat 1. Best rule of thumb is prepare up one category. Here in FL Irma scared the crap out of me and almost ruined my new generator.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1631 Postby Blown Away » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:53 am

Wonder if upwelling will come into play with Sally wobbling around in the same location?
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1632 Postby Dean4Storms » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:53 am

When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1633 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:53 am

Chemmers wrote:I have a bad feeling about this now


Ditto!
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1634 Postby hipshot » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:53 am

NDG wrote:Sally, that girl, is getting going, amazing deep convection. We will probably see the LLC and MLC start getting stacked little by little during the day today.

https://i.imgur.com/cZFQUdn.gif


Are the concentric waves expanding outward from the middle of that convection the gravity waves someone posted about.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1635 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:54 am

Dean4Storms wrote:When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!


Not good for us. Good for NOLA.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1636 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:56 am

Blown Away wrote:Wonder if upwelling will come into play with Sally wobbling around in the same location?


It would take days at this intensity to upwell enough to weaken it.

upwelling wont be a problem with sally for its life time.
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1637 Postby 3090 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:56 am

Dean4Storms wrote:When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!

OK got it!
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1638 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:57 am

DestinHurricane wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:When you look at the Ensembles of the GFS and Euro the Members with the stronger storm turn northward sooner than the weaker storm ensembles. Not good at all!


Not good for us. Good for NOLA.


Yep, we all were talking about that last night. Not sure if 12z has time ingest the relocation but 18z should
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1639 Postby Steve Cosby » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:57 am

Thank you for posting this. Really nice.

Aric Dunn wrote:This is spectacular.. with radial gravity waves and "bow shock" at the leading edge. and the immense pressure wave that was thrust outwards!

https://i.ibb.co/pQ01Y73/CODNEXLAB-GOES-East-meso-meso1-02-12-52-Z-20200914-map-31-1n-3-300.gif
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Re: ATL: SALLY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1640 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:58 am

tolakram wrote:The HWRF model shows the center bouncing around and very slow deepening for the next 12 to 18 hours after which it ramps up fast. I don't think we'll see much improvement today.


I'll quote myself :D That should have been somewhat steady deepening.

989mb at 11am and 974mb by 11pm is what the 6Z HWRF shows.
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