ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6461 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:13 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:


I'm wondering if we will go sub-900 when Recon gets back? It looks to be only stronger now.

My guess is somewhere near 900mb. Winds could be slightly higher or stay the same
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6462 Postby sikkar » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:15 pm

Just unbelievable IR presentation and symmetry for so long now. Those waters are pure high octane fuel.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6463 Postby BobHarlem » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:16 pm

From looking at long term radar loops, showing it bouncing around a little .. http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?467
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6464 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:17 pm

Going down to the history books. Absolutely breathtaking presentation

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6465 Postby ozonepete » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:18 pm

BobHarlem wrote:From looking at long term radar loops, showing it bouncing around a little .. http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?467


What's really noticeable from your loop is the slowdown.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6466 Postby Nimbus » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:20 pm

The cirrus clouds are expanding north without any restriction.
The ridge comes into play further north after the turn?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6467 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:21 pm

It better start turning NW or Freeport(population 50K) is going to be doomed

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6468 Postby KWT » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:21 pm

sikkar wrote:Just unbelievable IR presentation and symmetry for so long now. Those waters are pure high octane fuel.


Its crazy, because there have been some really outstanding looking hurricanes in the last few years, especially Irma and Michael, but this one maybe the best out of all of them, maybe tied with Irma.

I was going to go to bed as its 11.20pm here, but I think I will stay up for this first round of recon...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6469 Postby hipshot » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

GCANE wrote:UL HIgh now positioned over NE GOM
Some afternoon popups over west FL eroding this a bit.
Steering not as strong as compared 6 hrs ago.
Expect popups to rain out shortly.
Diurnal cooling should build the UL High back up overnight.
Not seeing the trough doing much with this.


https://i.imgur.com/JgHqZYz.png

https://i.imgur.com/Fu4fwXU.gif

https://i.imgur.com/xt4H539.png


Does anyone think that the high over west Texas will have any affect since Dorian is moving sooooo slowly?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6470 Postby Bunkertor » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

Can it be, that there is a steering deep pressure area in the North Florida region ?
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#6471 Postby MacTavish » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

Gona be looking hard for a secondary wind maximum on recon
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6472 Postby Emmett_Brown » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

As steering currents collapse, and Dorian slows or stalls, it will be very interesting to see how it moves. I have never seen a storm this strong stall before... the only storm that comes to mind is when Mitch stalled along the N coast of Honduras. Mitch ended up being "pulled" south into the coastline, seemingly because of his owning spinning and friction with land... not sure if that was the reason, just looked like it to me at the time. What will happen with extremely powerful Dorian when he stalls... will he meander like a top? For now, we watch and wait.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6473 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

supercane4867 wrote:It better start turning NW or Freeport(population 50K) is going to be doomed

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50d115e4d86084f4f0a4e34f487f2d931dd010989067134bcb6a4459f3100ef2.gif



Its not supposed to turn north for another 12 hours. So do the math...at 3-5 mph freeports gonna get eye juice
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6474 Postby gatorcane » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

Blown Away wrote:
DestinHurricane wrote:If it wobbles WSW anytime soon then it could bounce off the south coast of Grand Bahama and cause it to go into or get closer to Florida. Just a thought.

https://i.imgur.com/EYBSQRb.gif

A hair S of due west motion is happening...


Indeed there are some hair south of west wobbles as some of the model guidance hinted at. Note the GFS moves this more W-WNW.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6475 Postby PandaCitrus » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:22 pm

Need to closely watch the approach to Grand Bahama Island. Island Frictional Effects could cause Dorian to ride the slope of the island south or north. Obviously, going south of Grand Bahama would have enormous ramifications on track.

 https://twitter.com/crankywxguy/status/1168191309493997569


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6476 Postby KWT » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:23 pm

supercane4867 wrote:It better start turning NW or Freeport(population 50K) is going to be doomed

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50d115e4d86084f4f0a4e34f487f2d931dd010989067134bcb6a4459f3100ef2.gif


Unfortunately most models don't turn it meaningfully northwards until roughly the eastern end of the Grand Bahama, so likely they will get the west/SW eyewall of Dorian I fear.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6477 Postby mutley » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:24 pm

Michele B wrote:
mutley wrote:Just out of curiosity. Does anyone truly believe that Dorian is not going to make the turn, and go right into Florida's coast somewhere?


I’ll admit it. I’m skeptical.

Personally,’when I look at “trofs” and “ridges” I don’t see a big dip that looks like it’s going to pick this thing up.


I feel the same way. That's why I was asking. I believe the knowledgeable folks on here that the turn will happen. However, it is not easy to see why.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6478 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:24 pm

KWT wrote:
sikkar wrote:Just unbelievable IR presentation and symmetry for so long now. Those waters are pure high octane fuel.


Its crazy, because there have been some really outstanding looking hurricanes in the last few years, especially Irma and Michael, but this one maybe the best out of all of them, maybe tied with Irma.

I was going to go to bed as its 11.20pm here, but I think I will stay up for this first round of recon...

Irma was incredible, but I think Dorian wins. Cloud tops are colder, and more symmetrical in the cdo. I can’t recall irma’s Eye temp but I imagine they’re pretty similar
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6479 Postby michelinj » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:27 pm

KWT wrote:
sikkar wrote:Just unbelievable IR presentation and symmetry for so long now. Those waters are pure high octane fuel.


Its crazy, because there have been some really outstanding looking hurricanes in the last few years, especially Irma and Michael, but this one maybe the best out of all of them, maybe tied with Irma.

I was going to go to bed as its 11.20pm here, but I think I will stay up for this first round of recon...


Another from the UK! Recon always seems to fly in when I need to sleep! Will definitely stay up for it tho as a storm like this may not occur again in my lifetime. (Or maybe next year who knows nowadays)
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#6480 Postby Highteeld » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:28 pm

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Very useful information on the Dvorak Technique --

https://severe.worldweather.wmo.int/TCF ... kBeven.pdf


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