ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#561 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:37 am

Sea Surface Temps are hotter than usual around the islands.
Could be a factor for intensification.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#562 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:39 am

3 hot towers. One on the ne side, se and west side rotating around.. only a matter of time now before we see a distinct eye trying pop out. Few hints of it already.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#563 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:40 am

Stewart is back...11am should be interesting
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#565 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:59 am

Aric Dunn wrote:3 hot towers. One on the ne side, se and west side rotating around.. only a matter of time now before we see a distinct eye trying pop out. Few hints of it already.


Very evident helicity with them.
Also seeing some associated lightning.
They are layering on top of existing cirrus with distinct gravity waves.
Classic hallmark for intensification.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#566 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:07 am

Current Intensity Analysis



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ADVANCED DVORAK TECHNIQUE
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----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 26 AUG 2019 Time : 112020 UTC
Lat : 12:00:33 N Lon : 56:52:32 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
3.4 / 998.5mb/ 53.0kt
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#567 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:13 am

Starting to show up on the Barbados radar. Long term recording at http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?460
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#568 Postby USTropics » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:15 am

Past 100 visible sat frames (1-minute mesoscale):
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#569 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:18 am

This is embedded in a larger scale UL High.
Should see good outflow on the south to west quads.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#570 Postby Highteeld » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:23 am

CURRENT ESTIMATE
Date (mmddhhmm): 08260849
SATCON: MSLP = 996 hPa MSW = 56 knots
SATCON Member Consensus: 54.0 knots
Pressure -> Wind Using SATCON MSLP: 62 knots
Distance to Outer Closed Isobar Used is 100 nm
Eye Size Correction Used is 0 knots Source: NA
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#571 Postby Frank2 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:30 am

This shows the shear just ahead of Dorian - the current flare up is because it's going through an area of lower shear:

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/s ... 000&loop=0
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#572 Postby GCANE » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:32 am

Archer analysis of center fixes using 85 GHz image algorithms shows CoC north of Operational Track.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#573 Postby HurricaneAndre2008 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:34 am

Highteeld wrote:
CURRENT ESTIMATE
Date (mmddhhmm): 08260849
SATCON: MSLP = 996 hPa MSW = 56 knots
SATCON Member Consensus: 54.0 knots
Pressure -> Wind Using SATCON MSLP: 62 knots
Distance to Outer Closed Isobar Used is 100 nm
Eye Size Correction Used is 0 knots Source: NA

Enough evidence of 65mph storm.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#574 Postby Bostonriff » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:35 am

I doubt we see an eye without the CDO flaring uninterrupted for a good twelve hours or so.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#575 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:39 am

Dorian is a small cyclone but she has nothing on TS Marco from 2008. TS winds reach 45 miles from Dorians center. Marco just 11.5. Marco is still the smallest cyclone on record.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#577 Postby jconsor » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:46 am

Microwave images appear to show a partial eyewall.



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(From https://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/fix/fal052019.dat)
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#578 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:49 am

Nice CDO establishing itself with Dorian currently. The storm is well structured. The way things are going with this currently, I would not be shocked to see this attain minimal hurricane status as early as this evening.
This small scaled storm is making the most of walling off and shielding against the dry air around it . It has created a nice pocket environment of its own and maximizing it for the time being.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#579 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:49 am

The larger this becomes, the more it can filter out the dry air by creating a moisture pocket. NHC forecasted Dorian to become a hurricane by Thursday afternoon.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#580 Postby Weatherboy1 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:50 am

To me, the biggest development overnight is the notable shift in modeling to the NE down the road. More models seem to suggest Dorian could cross over the eastern end of the island of Hispanola - or miss it entirely. As you can see from the topographical map here, that isn't where the biggest, most-disruptive mountains are located. In other words, a difference of maybe 50-100 miles can make a huge difference in the system's ultimate strength. Certainly paying closer attention here in SE FL given the trends seen over the last 24 hours

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Hispaniola_lrg.jpg
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