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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#401 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:32 am

boca wrote:What weather should we expect in South Florida?


For SE FL not much other than continuing very warm and humid wx with possible pop up showers today and tomorrow, just have to watch if the forecasted squall line that will be affecting central Fl makes it to your area but so far is not forecasted.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#402 Postby Weatherboy1 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:38 am

I said it yesterday and think it still holds today: My semi-educated guess is that this will hit well East/South of what was originally forecast. Outside chance it landfalls on peninsula vs panhandle. Moreover, NHC has shifted “uncertain” (in their words) motion from 20 degrees yesterday midday to 40 degrees yesterday evening to 55 degrees in last update. We’re really talking more ENE motion than NE at this point. Wouldn’t be surprised if warnings extended southward at 5 if heading more to
The N doesn’t start very soon
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#403 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:38 am

Not sure if at h70 they will find a well defined circulation.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#404 Postby nativefloridian » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:39 am

NDG wrote:
boca wrote:What weather should we expect in South Florida?


For SE FL not much other than continuing very warm and humid wx with possible pop up showers today and tomorrow, just have to watch if the forecasted squall line that will be affecting central Fl makes it to your area but so far is not forecasted.


We could use a cool off here in SE FL. A little envious of those further north talking about temps in the 50's & 60's while we swelter here with upper 80's to low 90's. Oh well....maybe whatever this system is will bring us some more rain?
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#405 Postby TallyTracker » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:39 am

wxman57 wrote:Any circulation appears to be broad and located west of the convection. That would make it hard for the system to strengthen. Lots of shear to contend with. No convergence toward any center. Those northerly winds west of the low are behind the cold front, which is very near the low. This is more of a frontal low than a TC.

http://wxman57.com/images/16b.JPG


I agree with this assessment. The broad swirl is clearly shown on visible imagery. No matter how impressive the convection, the lower level circulation is poorly defined.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#406 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:40 am

NDG wrote:Not sure if at h70 they will find a well defined circulation.

not likely. a mid level circ displaced is quite possible. but the low levle circ is still quite evident from surface obs and satellite.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#407 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:43 am

Nice gravity waves with the deep convection, wow!

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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#408 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:46 am

NDG wrote:Nice gravity waves with the deep convection, wow!

https://i.imgur.com/jFBQX5r.gif
That is one cool and unique satellite image!!
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#409 Postby Jr0d » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:47 am

I just woke up. Not sure if the 60mph wind are lack of a name is more surprising.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#410 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:48 am

In case any one wondering why is this system currently tropical.

 https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/1185218394330730504


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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#411 Postby TallyTracker » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:53 am

I see two swirls within the broad circulation. One is well southwest of the convection and is very weak. The other is tucked just under the main convection and appears to be becoming the dominant circulation. When that tightens up a little more, I expect the NHC will upgrade the system.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#412 Postby psyclone » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:55 am

It's a subtropical blob. Who cares where the center is the blob is it as far as sensible wx is concerned. the blob is blasting right toward northern and central peninsular Florida. Blob warnings should be in place from Englewood up to the big bend. Gusty winds, elevated tides, hostile seas, squally heavy showers and thunderstorms along with some severe risk (waterspouts/tornadoes) are on the weather menu. I am looking forward to greeting the blob.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#413 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:56 am

man, if there is a LLC under that MLC that recon is finding that is much farther ene than where should be.. it would have to head nne to make the landfall forecast.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#414 Postby psyclone » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:03 am

BTW convection developing east of the main blob is getting zestier and quickly closing in on Florida. weather is going to go downhill rather quickly later today
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#415 Postby HurricaneRyan » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:11 am

Is Josephine '96 a good analog for this? Similar time of year plus landfall set-up.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#416 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:14 am

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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#417 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:19 am

yeah the recon FL winds are off from the surface by a good deal. drop sondes all showing S to Se winds at the surface where FL at 10k feet are showing ssw. giving the appearance something is farther to the ENE>

center is still well south of guidance and passing south of that bouy.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#418 Postby NDG » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:20 am

No surprise that the recon found the h70 CoC further north than where the surface CoC is.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#419 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:21 am

FYI.. new AF plane is now en route.. hopefully we get a good center fix now.
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Re: ATL: SIXTEEN - Potential Tropical Cyclone

#420 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:23 am

NDG wrote:No surprise that the recon found the h70 CoC further north than where the surface CoC is.


yeah, with the shear at that level... also no sign of pressure drops up that way so no reformation occurring. center still south.
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