ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1281 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:15 am

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Recon is hopefully about to sample the vorticity maximum that has formed within #Dorian west of Martinique.

On this pass, take care interpreting the extrapolated pressure obs. The aircraft's altimeter has been behaving errantly, which directly impacts the pressure estimates.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1282 Postby otowntiger » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:16 am

wxman57 wrote:
chris_fit wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
No question about that. Dorian looks less impressive than a few hours ago, though. Winds may be down to 30-35 kts.



WXMAN57 - What's your track/intensity for FL look like?


Landfall near Port St. Lucie. Ensembles now indicating a WNW track into the NE Gulf late Sunday. Intensity past the DR is HIGHLY uncertain. Somewhere between a tropical wave and a hurricane, I'd say.
LOL! big range there! But well said and understandable. A lot could still happen intensity wise apparently, but it seems that the eventual path is getting a little more clear, maybe?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1283 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:18 am

Found the center just fine. And pressures are dropping. Not surprised. Assuming the pressure sensor is working lol
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1284 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:20 am

Martinique radar clearly shows the new center due west of Fort-De-France

http://www.meteo.fr/temps/domtom/antill ... f_com.html
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1285 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:21 am

Looks like they found the center.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1286 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:21 am

This is good enough for me for a new COC.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1287 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:21 am

wxman57 wrote:
Landfall near Port St. Lucie. Ensembles now indicating a WNW track into the NE Gulf late Sunday. Intensity past the DR is HIGHLY uncertain. Somewhere between a tropical wave and a hurricane, I'd say.


What are your thoughts on the weaker subtropical ridging that the models have been suggesting over the past several cycles? Are they underestimating the ridge as they have time and time again, or is it too soon to tell?
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1288 Postby ronjon » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:22 am

ScottNAtlanta wrote:Martinique radar clearly shows the new center due west of Fort-De-France

http://www.meteo.fr/temps/domtom/antill ... f_com.html


Looks like an eyewall on radar - very circular.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1289 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:22 am

txwatcher91 wrote:Looks like they found the center.

https://tropicaltidbits.com/recon/recon_AF309-0505A-DORIAN_zoom.png

1007mb which means a little bit of strengthening going on
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1290 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:23 am

ronjon wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:Martinique radar clearly shows the new center due west of Fort-De-France

http://www.meteo.fr/temps/domtom/antill ... f_com.html


Looks like an eyewall on radar - very circular.

Not with a 1007 pressure, it’s an artifact
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1291 Postby GCANE » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:23 am

Feeder Band just about over the islands.
Unusually hot water around the islands.
Looks like it may have an effect.
Large tower firing off.
IR depicting a warm core.
Can't beat the outflow.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1292 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:26 am

The outflow looks like it is improving in all sectors. We will have to see if it can fight off that dry slot thats trying to work in. I just also noticed that dry slot is right where the old center was
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1293 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:28 am

Looks like some inflow impingement due to the Lesser Antilles
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1294 Postby ObsessedMiami » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:29 am

This is pretty crazy when you are working and come back to catch up on three or four pages of posts. "It is strengthening, hot towers, outflow" competes page by page with "minimal TS, hardly any winds, ingesting dry air, looking bad" . Is this storm that up and down? Or just the observations? :double:
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1295 Postby wxman57 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:30 am

NDG wrote:This is good enough for me for a new COC.

https://i.imgur.com/PGUHUox.png


That's a pretty pathetic circulation.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1296 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:31 am

Circulation looks great for just having reformed. Convection building around it. Will take a couple hours for everything to even out.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1297 Postby Bostonriff » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:31 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
ronjon wrote:
ScottNAtlanta wrote:Martinique radar clearly shows the new center due west of Fort-De-France

http://www.meteo.fr/temps/domtom/antill ... f_com.html
Looks like an eyewall on radar - very circular.

Not with a 1007 pressure, it’s an artifact

It may not be an eyewall yet, but it's definitely a spinning circle of echo-returns.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1298 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:33 am

Bostonriff wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
ronjon wrote:Looks like an eyewall on radar - very circular.

Not with a 1007 pressure, it’s an artifact

It may not be an eyewall yet, but it's definitely a spinning circle of echo-returns.


Well technically its exactly what would be the low to mid level eyewall. It just does not have the dynamics that would truly make it an eyewall.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1299 Postby tanguy97 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:34 am

Light winds and severe rains in Guadeloupe, We are in the northern part of the systeme. More rain to come.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1300 Postby psyclone » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:35 am

ObsessedMiami wrote:This is pretty crazy when you are working and come back to catch up on three or four pages of posts. "It is strengthening, hot towers, outflow" competes page by page with "minimal TS, hardly any winds, ingesting dry air, looking bad" . Is this storm that up and down? Or just the observations? :double:


It's the standard tug of war with our best players on the field. I'm just watching to see if it can survive the tropical ninja warrior hazard course that is the ne Caribbean. so far it is.
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