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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#561 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:42 am

By the time the recon gets there Gordon's COC will be in the GOM.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Recon

#562 Postby RL3AO » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:42 am

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#563 Postby Nimbus » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am

The winds at Long key have shifted from 40 degrees early this morning to 358 recently.
Surface pressure there only dropped to about 1012 MB down 5 MB from yesterday at this time.


https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page. ... tion=LONF1

9:00 am N ( 358 deg ) 7 kts
8:50 am N ( 7 deg ) 8 kts
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#564 Postby stormhunter7 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:51 am

The CoC from what Stewart is tracking is about hour to two hours from being back in GOM. I have looked at all the PWS and do think this area we see on radar is becoming the surface center. The ULL over Western Cuba is retreating to the SW... RI is not out of the woods in my book. A slight shift in forecast to the right should happen at next advisory to account to for reformation of center. Recon will arrive just as CoC exits south of maro island. Hard to find west winds... But they are there.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#565 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:55 am

I haven't looked at the overnight data yet, but I must say, I'm disappointed with how the NHC handled Gordon in relation to Florida. I am 0% surprised a TS formed right on our doorstep in September. There was enough climatology and model support to know that this was a distinct possibility. Now we have the TS warnings many thought should have come yesterday, and people in Miami and Fort Lauderdale are going to be waking up to a lousy holiday surprise. Again, this is a low-stakes scenario, but easily avoidable.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#566 Postby GeneratorPower » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:58 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:I haven't looked at the overnight data yet, but I must say, I'm disappointed with how the NHC handled Gordon in relation to Florida. I am 0% surprised a TS formed right on our doorstep in September. There was enough climatology and model support to know that this was a distinct possibility. Now we have the TS warnings many thought should have come yesterday, and people in Miami and Fort Lauderdale are going to be waking up to a lousy holiday surprise. Again, this is a low-stakes scenario, but easily avoidable.


Agreed. But it’s not going to stop happening.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#567 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:59 am

Can easily see the outflow pushing out the northly winds in the east GOM.
Convection continues to fire in the west GOM supporting the anti-cyclone.
Any deeper convection firing in the mid GOM will push the anti-cyclone closer to Gordon.

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#568 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:00 am

That Euro run having a tropical storm into south Florida then Alabama looks pretty good now
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#569 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:01 am

The long radar loop here http://flhurricane.com/imageanimator.php?373 really shows how rapidly everything is coming together with Gordon. I'm trying to remember a better radar view of a forming tropical system and not finding it.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#570 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:02 am

Looks like the center might have consolidated over the Everglades National Park and is about to move into the gulf.

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#571 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:07 am

Strong updraft starting to create his own anti-cyclone.
Enough time over hot water to reshape the whole upper troposphere.
Could be very interesting.

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#572 Postby johngaltfla » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:07 am

Just what SW Florida needs, more rain. :roll:

Hopefully this does not intensify too much over our Gulf bath waters.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#573 Postby kevin mathis » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:09 am

Very near the coast of SW Florida near Everglades City. Should be off shore within the hour.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#574 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:12 am

Recon is dropping down into the system now.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#575 Postby RL3AO » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:15 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:Looks like the center might have consolidated over the Everglades National Park and is about to move into the gulf.


Radar can be a little misleading here. The actual center is further south.

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#576 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:16 am

Well north of middle keys now
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#577 Postby tropicwatch » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:19 am

RL3AO wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:Looks like the center might have consolidated over the Everglades National Park and is about to move into the gulf.


Radar can be a little misleading here. The actual center is further south.


You are probably right. We are about to find out, HH almost there.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#578 Postby MississippiWx » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:21 am

Not really worth debating where the center is located. Recon will let us know shortly.
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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#579 Postby tolakram » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:22 am

Latest Key West saved loop. MLC looks to be off the coast, and I still agree that LLC is somewhere near the keys. :lol: Waiting impatiently for recon.

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Re: ATL: GORDON - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#580 Postby JPmia » Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:23 am

Evil Jeremy wrote:I haven't looked at the overnight data yet, but I must say, I'm disappointed with how the NHC handled Gordon in relation to Florida. I am 0% surprised a TS formed right on our doorstep in September. There was enough climatology and model support to know that this was a distinct possibility. Now we have the TS warnings many thought should have come yesterday, and people in Miami and Fort Lauderdale are going to be waking up to a lousy holiday surprise. Again, this is a low-stakes scenario, but easily avoidable.


I hate to criticism NHC, but I have to agree. Thought that was the point of the PTC classification procedure, but whatever. Conditions have definitely become tropical stormy over the past two hours in Fort Lauderdale.
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