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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7361 Postby nascarfan999 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:08 pm

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KBBOCA wrote:Does anyone remember the rescue total from Katrina? These numbers are staggering... I'm curious how they compare.



Probably higher than in Katrina, since there are more than 5 times as many people in flooded areas.

That number is probably way low as well...I suspect they got that number from a press conference earlier this evening. If I remember correctly, the Coast Guard, Houston PD, and Houston FD each did 3,000 rescues so there was 9,000 just from those 3 agencies. Start adding in all of the other cities and counties that were involved, plus all of the individuals who conducted rescues on their own, and I would imagine the amount goes way over 13,000.

NRG Center also being opened as a shelter designed to hold 10,000.

Edited to correct location from NRG Stadium to NRG Center. Sorry for any confusion.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7362 Postby artist » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:13 pm

KBBOCA wrote:Does anyone remember the rescue total from Katrina? These numbers are staggering... I'm curious how they compare.

 https://twitter.com/AP/status/902704109375160320



From history.com

Many people acted heroically in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The Coast Guard, for instance, rescued some 34,000 people in New Orleans alone, and many ordinary citizens commandeered boats, offered food and shelter, and did whatever else they could to help their neighbors.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7363 Postby Exalt » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:15 pm

KBBOCA wrote:5 day radar loop of Harvey

 https://twitter.com/NWSEastern/status/902710394250244097




Is it just me or did Harvey barely save itself from going extratropical? You can see that classic obvious transition, but right as the center gets back over water, it detaches itself from the front. (around :28 - :33)
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7364 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:17 pm

Not sure if this has already been posted, but in case it hasn't, here are some before & after pictures from the Rockport, TX area where Harvey made landfall:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/local/articl ... item-39786
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7365 Postby nascarfan999 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:17 pm

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KBBOCA wrote:Does anyone remember the rescue total from Katrina? These numbers are staggering... I'm curious how they compare.


From history.com

Many people acted heroically in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. The Coast Guard, for instance, rescued some 34,000 people in New Orleans alone, and many ordinary citizens commandeered boats, offered food and shelter, and did whatever else they could to help their neighbors.


Below link is a government article confirming the 34,000. It also put the total at an estimated 60,000.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06903.pdf
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7366 Postby Exalt » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:21 pm

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KBBOCA wrote:5 day radar loop of Harvey
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Is it just me or did Harvey barely save itself from going extratropical? You can see that classic obvious transition, but right as the center gets back over water, it detaches itself from the front. (around :28 - :33)


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In fact you can see the front detaching on satellite, the center reforming as well.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7367 Postby nutkin517 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:21 pm

They're doing water rescues in Central Gardens and Beauxart Gardens. They're in between Beaumont and Port Arthur along 69 near the prison.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7368 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:26 pm

The center is due south off shore of the Texas-Louisiana border, still drifting slowly eastward.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7370 Postby artist » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:30 pm

This is just awful, yet miraculous-

Mother dies, infant survives after falling into rain swollen Beaumont drainage ditch

BEAUMONT - The body of a woman was found Tuesday evening in a drainage ditch west of Interstate 10 along with her infant daughter who survived.

From the Beaumont Police Department...

Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 3:37 PM Officers responded to the area of 50 IH10 N, south bound service road in reference to a high water rescue.

A Beaumont woman and her young female child were traveling south bound on the service road and got into high water.

She pulled her vehicle in to the Plaza 10 parking lot. The vehicle got stuck and the mother exited the car with the child.

At some point she was swept into the canal and ended up floating about ½ mile from her vehicle.

Two Beaumont Police Officers and two Beaumont Fire Rescue divers in a Zodiac boat, spotted the mother floating with the small child.

The child was holding on to her mother.

The first responders got to the mother and child just before they went under a trestle.

Water was up to the trestle and first responders would not have been able to save the child if they had floated under it.

More at
http://www.12newsnow.com/weather/hurric ... /469089654
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7371 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:33 pm

Here are some rain totals for Beaumont I saw posted on Twitter. Obviously they are not necessarily official, but the source seems to be a pro met.

 https://twitter.com/HeatwaveKGNS/status/902717908320649216


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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7372 Postby artist » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:36 pm

From Jefferson county, just west of Beaumont-

http://www.12newsnow.com/weather/hurric ... /468600856
Hours after several residents like Mitch Hardt decided to leave before the waters of Pine Island Bayou rose into his home, volunteer firefighters had to launch boats to rescue people from their houses.

Monday afternoon, Jefferson County Judge Jeff Brannick issued a mandatory evacuation for the neighborhoods of Pinewood, Bevil Oaks, and Northwest Forest.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7373 Postby ace » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:38 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
KBBOCA wrote:Does anyone remember the rescue total from Katrina? These numbers are staggering... I'm curious how they compare.

 https://twitter.com/AP/status/902704109375160320




Probably higher than in Katrina, since there are more than 5 times as many people in flooded areas.


....we're no where near done with rescues. I'm listening to helicopters to my North and South as I type this, and many of our creeks, reservoirs, rivers, dams and levies have not crested.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7374 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:40 pm

:uarrow: :cry: This story is just devastating and just gut wrenching!!

So sad about a child losing her mother like this . My prayers to the mother's family and to her child. It is just incredulous how miraculously her child was found in the nick of time!!
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#7375 Postby nutkin517 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:43 pm

It is raining so hard and just won't stop. I'm pretty scared. Ditch filling up again.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7376 Postby nutkin517 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:44 pm

ace wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
KBBOCA wrote:Does anyone remember the rescue total from Katrina? These numbers are staggering... I'm curious how they compare.

 https://twitter.com/AP/status/902704109375160320




Probably higher than in Katrina, since there are more than 5 times as many people in flooded areas.


....we're no where near done with rescues. I'm listening to helicopters to my North and South as I type this, and many of our creeks, reservoirs, rivers, dams and levies have not crested.


I've been hearing helicopters all day too.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7377 Postby Langinbang187 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:45 pm

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KBBOCA wrote:5 day radar loop of Harvey
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Is it just me or did Harvey barely save itself from going extratropical? You can see that classic obvious transition, but right as the center gets back over water, it detaches itself from the front. (around :28 - :33)


Image

In fact you can see the front detaching on satellite, the center reforming as well.


Man, I swear some storms just have a little more "fight" in them than others. Harvey just seemed determent to keep devastating everything in its path. Good lord....
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7378 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:46 pm

Recent radar returns look like Harvey is starting the northward progression again.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7379 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:47 pm

Suffering is on a similar magnitude regardless of the numbers. Though they are all completely different, Harvey is now one of the big boy American storms of the last 30 years joining names like Hugo, Andrew, Sandy, Ivan, Wilma and Katrina (among others) at the top.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#7380 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:49 pm

I'm honestly sick and tired of the Katrina comparisons. Different time, different location, different situation.

What cell phone did you have in 2005? Right?

So let's stick to Harvey please, thanks.
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