ATL: MARIA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#461 Postby BZSTORM » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:59 pm

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WTNT35 KNHC 172053
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Hurricane Maria Advisory Number 6
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL152017
500 PM AST Sun Sep 17 2017

...MARIA BECOMES A HURRICANE...
...ADDITIONAL WARNINGS AND WATCHES ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
LEEWARD ISLANDS...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM AST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...13.8N 57.5W
ABOUT 140 MI...225 KM ENE OF BARBADOS
ABOUT 275 MI...445 KM ESE OF DOMINICA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...75 MPH...120 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 15 MPH...24 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...982 MB...29.00 INCHES
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#462 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:00 pm

they can get the data faster from the plane through radio communications before the set and dropsonde come out.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#463 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:01 pm

It looks to be up a bit to 70 kt now, although the pressure has stabilized around 982.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#464 Postby tolakram » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:02 pm

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#465 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:10 pm

05000 1350N 05726W 6964 03023 9823 +157 +095 086007 010 022 001 03
205030 1352N 05727W 6973 03017 9830 +155 +107 082018 020 032 001 00
205100 1353N 05729W 6966 03027 9848 +140 +117 068026 033 059 005 00
205130 1354N 05730W 6973 03027 9878 +129 +127 064042 050 067 020 03
205200 1355N 05732W 6957 03058 9923 +115 //// 065055 057 070 021 05
205230 1357N 05733W 6957 03073 9951 +116 +116 062061 063 068 025 00
205300 1358N 05735W 6967 03067 9970 +106 +106 053058 060 063 022 00
205330 1358N 05735W 6967 03067 9983 +105 +105 055059 062 059 026 00
205400 1400N 05737W 6973 03083 9969 +105 +105 058056 058 057 009 00
205430 1402N 05739W 6967 03100 9987 +101 +101 054054 056 056 009 00
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#466 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:12 pm

thats pretty telling ... from an hour ago..

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#467 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:15 pm

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#468 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:21 pm

Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)

A. Time of Center Fix: 17th day of the month at 20:49:20Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 13°47'N 57°26'W (13.7833N 57.4333W)

D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 51kts (~ 58.7mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 8 nautical miles (9 statute miles) to the S (181°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 269° at 50kts (From the W at ~ 57.5mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 12 nautical miles (14 statute miles) to the S (179°) of center fix

H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 983mb (29.03 inHg)

I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 10°C (50°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,044m (9,987ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 18°C (64°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,050m (10,007ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 8°C (46°F)

L. Eye Character: Open in the south, S
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 28 nautical miles (32 statute miles)
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#469 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:22 pm

GCANE wrote:Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)

A. Time of Center Fix: 17th day of the month at 20:49:20Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 13°47'N 57°26'W (13.7833N 57.4333W)

D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 51kts (~ 58.7mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 8 nautical miles (9 statute miles) to the S (181°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 269° at 50kts (From the W at ~ 57.5mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 12 nautical miles (14 statute miles) to the S (179°) of center fix

H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 983mb (29.03 inHg)

I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 10°C (50°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,044m (9,987ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 18°C (64°F) at a pressure alt. of 3,050m (10,007ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 8°C (46°F)

L. Eye Character: Open in the south, S
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 28 nautical miles (32 statute miles)


the eye increased from 20 nm to 28 nm this pass.. weird.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#470 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:24 pm

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#471 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:28 pm

NW Eyewall is rockin.
Up to 25 mm/hr rain rate.
This may ramp tonight.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#472 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:33 pm

There you go.


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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#473 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Very high helicity
Going to really crank the surface winds.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#474 Postby GCANE » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:46 pm

Those two towers are spewing a fast spreading anvil.
Layering on top of the CDO cirrus.
Here's an example of what it would look like.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#475 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:57 pm

I still like Martinique and Dominica for the first land impacts. Don't think this will do much to the islands devastated by Irma. St. Croix could be a whole other storm, however. Their fate may be only marginally better than St. Thomas and St. John
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#476 Postby psyclone » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:08 pm

Alyono wrote:I still like Martinique and Dominica for the first land impacts. Don't think this will do much to the islands devastated by Irma. St. Croix could be a whole other storm, however. Their fate may be only marginally better than St. Thomas and St. John


Yeah it really looks to spread the misery a notch farther south and west...areas that got a close shave with Irma like Puerto Rico may get creamed while areas that got blasted by Irma may get a close shave with Maria.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#477 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:09 pm

you can clearly see the eyewall convection becoming better defined and sustained wwith a nice semi circle of overshooting tops.

https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/goes/abi/ ... and14.html

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#478 Postby sunnyday » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:28 pm

A couple of local mets said Maria should miss Fl. As always, things can change. Who agrees at this point?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#479 Postby hurricaneCW » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm

Things are already looking ugly for the islands, Puerto Rico is likely to get a direct hit as well from a potential Category 3 or 4 storm.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#480 Postby redneck51 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:55 pm

hurricaneCW wrote:Things are already looking ugly for the islands, Puerto Rico is likely to get a direct hit as well from a potential Category 3 or 4 storm.

Thanks for thinking of us islanders. :)
After pages of speculations about a CONUS landfall it's good to see that somebody cares about what's about to happen here in the Caribbean.
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