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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#281 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:50 pm

Frank2 wrote:Models seem to be working well after a rough start earlier in the season. Harvey and Irma were both handled fairly well, though no one really forecast Irma running over the Cuban coast as it did - that spared SE Florida a much worse fate.

During my weather days, the 1970's operational models had a very wide margin of error - not so now...
the gfs was way right all the way until the end and intensity was garbage too, consistently at 900mb or below..ukmet and euro did the best job overall
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#282 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:52 pm

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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#283 Postby otowntiger » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:52 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
Alyono wrote:ec looks to fujiwara with Jose

garbage can
awesome, gfs plows the storm into the ridge and the euro goes dancing with jose...guess we see wha happy hour brings, hope it comes to something more realistic then wake up tomorrow and see how the euro resolves jose
but isn't this good news? If either of these were to verify? Seems like something to be hopeful for not disappointed?
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#284 Postby xironman » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:56 pm

Best model run of the year, Maria forces Jose's remnants into NC while an approaching trough pushes Maria into Bangor ME

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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#285 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:57 pm

otowntiger wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
Alyono wrote:ec looks to fujiwara with Jose

garbage can
awesome, gfs plows the storm into the ridge and the euro goes dancing with jose...guess we see wha happy hour brings, hope it comes to something more realistic then wake up tomorrow and see how the euro resolves jose
but isn't this good news? If either of these were to verify? Seems like something to be hopeful for not disappointed?

It would be good news but both are unrealistic and unlikely to actually play out.
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#286 Postby psyclone » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:58 pm

Looks like everyone's sleep pattern will be going back to EURO standard time. Still plenty of time for a good outcome for the CONUS here but for folks in the eastern Caribbean... :eek:
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#287 Postby NJWxHurricane » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:59 pm

AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
otowntiger wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:awesome, gfs plows the storm into the ridge and the euro goes dancing with jose...guess we see wha happy hour brings, hope it comes to something more realistic then wake up tomorrow and see how the euro resolves jose
but isn't this good news? If either of these were to verify? Seems like something to be hopeful for not disappointed?

It would be good news but both are unrealistic and unlikely to actually play out.

nothing is ever unlikely, this is the weather
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#288 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:00 pm

otowntiger wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
Alyono wrote:ec looks to fujiwara with Jose

garbage can
awesome, gfs plows the storm into the ridge and the euro goes dancing with jose...guess we see wha happy hour brings, hope it comes to something more realistic then wake up tomorrow and see how the euro resolves jose
but isn't this good news? If either of these were to verify? Seems like something to be hopeful for not disappointed?
the system may end up in those locations but not with the setup they are showing in these runs, they look until hour 150 or so then it goes to fantasy..lets see how the gfs does during happy hour
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#289 Postby M3gaMatch » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:03 pm

wow, what a run from the Euro. I can't see it playing out like that but very interesting nonetheless. I don't know about the Atlantic, but here in the Coral / Tasman Sea, anything at those high latitudes would 9 times out of 10 be off to the SE, or NE in your case (referring to Jose). We'll see.
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#290 Postby invest man » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:05 pm

How many of us could say that "if" that came to fruition, that would be the strangest thing you'd ever seen tropically?
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#291 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:05 pm

NJWxHurricane wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
otowntiger wrote: but isn't this good news? If either of these were to verify? Seems like something to be hopeful for not disappointed?

It would be good news but both are unrealistic and unlikely to actually play out.

nothing is ever unlikely, this is the weather


Low pressure systems do not run straight into high pressures the way the GFS modeled out.

Models have a tendency in overdoing binary interactions with nearby systems and show Fujiwara's, which more times than not do not materialize.
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#292 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:05 pm

Maria says "Dance Jose DANCE!"

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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#293 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:11 pm

Just woke up from my 30 min nap, lol Euro.


Just lol.
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#294 Postby AdamFirst » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:11 pm

I will eat my shorts if that EURO run verifies post 5 days.

Hoping for the best for our friends in the islands...again. The third time in three weeks.
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#295 Postby Alyono » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:12 pm

psyclone wrote:Looks like everyone's sleep pattern will be going back to EURO standard time. Still plenty of time for a good outcome for the CONUS here but for folks in the eastern Caribbean... :eek:


some really have to stop being wed to the ECMWF
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#296 Postby otowntiger » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:13 pm

NJWxHurricane wrote:
AxaltaRacing24 wrote:
otowntiger wrote: but isn't this good news? If either of these were to verify? Seems like something to be hopeful for not disappointed?

It would be good news but both are unrealistic and unlikely to actually play out.

nothing is ever unlikely, this is the weather
. Right! I was just going to say how do we know it's unlikely?? Lol!
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#297 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:16 pm

Alyono wrote:
psyclone wrote:Looks like everyone's sleep pattern will be going back to EURO standard time. Still plenty of time for a good outcome for the CONUS here but for folks in the eastern Caribbean... :eek:


some really have to stop being wed to the ECMWF


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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#298 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:17 pm

All i have to say us wow... Euro geez lol.
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#299 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:17 pm

Alyono wrote:
psyclone wrote:Looks like everyone's sleep pattern will be going back to EURO standard time. Still plenty of time for a good outcome for the CONUS here but for folks in the eastern Caribbean... :eek:


some really have to stop being wed to the ECMWF

I don't think it has anything to do with hugging the Euro, usually I like to compare both operationals when it's running.

I also like hitting the refresh button to see what the Euro comes up with, it's always exciting to see what comes next. :lol:
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Re: ATL: FIFTEEN - Models

#300 Postby Blown Away » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:20 pm

I thought the 12z Euro was kinda cool... If that happened it would legendary...
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