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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#261 Postby Steve » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:15 pm

96 is just off the tip of Brownsville. That's a slight north from 72 but with the time gaps, it's hard to say how.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#262 Postby GCANE » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:16 pm

That cell I circled earlier, just east of the LLC, continues to slowly develop

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 181330.jpg

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#263 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:18 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
stormhunter7 wrote:The goes-16 data is pretty remarkable. Close up vis shows MLC is not working down to surface, yet.



Where is everyone getting the goes 16 loops and stuff ?


https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/

People have been using a screen capture software to create gifs.

I will note that it's far enough north now to use the GOM sector from College of Dupage.

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=gulf-02-24-0
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#264 Postby TexasSam » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:18 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
stormhunter7 wrote:The goes-16 data is pretty remarkable. Close up vis shows MLC is not working down to surface, yet.



Where is everyone getting the goes 16 loops and stuff ?


I get mine here https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#265 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:20 pm

RL3AO wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
stormhunter7 wrote:The goes-16 data is pretty remarkable. Close up vis shows MLC is not working down to surface, yet.



Where is everyone getting the goes 16 loops and stuff ?


https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/

People have been using a screen capture software to create gifs.

I will note that it's far enough north now to use the GOM sector from College of Dupage.

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?parms=gulf-02-24-0



ok yeah. thats all I have too as for interactive. not much else yet. cant wait till SSD has it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#266 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:21 pm

Heres a visible loop from College of Dupage.

Warning: Over 15MB. Be careful opening if on data network.
http://i.imgur.com/9wTrAiA.gifv
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#267 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:23 pm

THe broad turning near the land is very very weak and there are clear and very evident sea breeze boundaries over land so the circ could develop literally anywhere any deep convection can develop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#268 Postby NDG » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:26 pm

Then a northerly track towards the upper coast of TX.

Edit: Matagorda Bay.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Models

#269 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:27 pm

The main vorticity is inland over Texas @ 120hrs. This run is weaker compared to the previous runs. Similar to the Euro Parallel.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#270 Postby HurricaneBrain » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:28 pm

Ball of convection, strongest winds continues well east of the oblong surface low just east of the Yucatan.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#271 Postby HurricaneBrain » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:30 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#272 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:31 pm

Conditions above 93L are becoming very favorable.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#273 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:33 pm

 https://twitter.com/pppapin/status/876507562451054594




Showing how the outflow of 93L will amplify the trough in the Caribbean, which will eventually shear 92L to pieces.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#274 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:35 pm

GCANE wrote:That cell I circled earlier, just east of the LLC, continues to slowly develop

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 181330.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/xbctw7.png



That area of convergence has some clear westerly inflow in the lower CU cloud deck on the western side with southerly on the east side. that entire lobe is rotating to the NNE. if the convection can maintain then as it rotates towards the north side of the gyre it will reach a maximum area of vorticity and the NE side pressure gradient and wind field would increase possibly helping a more defined LLC or vort to develop. will be interesting to watch .
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#275 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:49 pm

Getting kind of impressive looking for early stages of development.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#276 Postby Nederlander » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:49 pm

Looking better on satellite. Convection is trying to fire off near the mid level circ. Definitely looks like a developing system trying to get its act together
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#277 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:00 pm

In my unprofessional opinion, this all depends on whether or not, and how fast, any developing LLC can be drawn under the potent MLC visible on satellite. If 93L can do this quickly, she may consolidate fairly rapidly over the next 24 hours and perhaps be classifiable; if not, she will likely stream generally north and/or west in a disorganized fashion.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#278 Postby gatorcane » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:10 pm

Strongest 850mb vort well NE of the broad low near Yucatán. Looks like the GFS idea of a new vort forming off to NE is materializing

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#279 Postby tropicwatch » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:12 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:In my unprofessional opinion, this all depends on whether or not, and how fast, any developing LLC can be drawn under the potent MLC visible on satellite. If 93L can do this quickly, she may consolidate fairly rapidly over the next 24 hours and perhaps be classifiable; if not, she will likely stream generally north and/or west in a disorganized fashion.


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The MLC is even impressive on the AVN color loop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L - Discussion

#280 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:13 pm

It actually looks like the 12z NAM has a good handle on how things are progressing so far this afternoon.

And the end of that model run actually looks quite reasonable as well. Interested to see how well it does.
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