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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2021 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:03 pm

Huge west shift by Euro.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2022 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:03 pm

Even stronger @ 48hrs. when compared to the 00z Euro run, and much further west close to the Texas/Mexico border coastline.

12z Euro @ 48hrs. :darrow:
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00z Euro @ 48hrs. :darrow:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2023 Postby hd44 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:05 pm

Ukmet and Ecmwf never diverge this much by 48 hours or very rarely. This is very complicated forecast.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2024 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:06 pm

54H offshore the TX/MX border at 993mb
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2025 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:06 pm

hd44 wrote:Ukmet and Ecmwf never diverge this much by 48 hours or very rarely. This is very complicated forecast.

With how poorly the models have been performing and their inconsistency this season it comes as no surprise to such divergence in the short-term. What a forecasting headache this is turning out to be! :roll:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2026 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:08 pm

60H near padre Island at 991mb.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2027 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:08 pm

Seems modest TS or Cat 1 and rainfall will be the story...
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2028 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:09 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2029 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:09 pm

So the Euro doesnt seem to be building in the high from the southwest US. Isnt this a known bias of the model in wanting to hold ridging further west in the SW US?
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2030 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:11 pm

Well the current stall was not predicted so I'm sure that throws a wrench in the model's runs. IMO
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2031 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:12 pm

given the rate of organization, the UKMET intensity forecast may be the most reasonable
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2032 Postby mcheer23 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:14 pm

Alyono wrote:given the rate of organization, the UKMET intensity forecast may be the most reasonable



What do you think about track
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2033 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:14 pm

Landfall near Corpus Christi, TX @ 72hrs. slightly west when compared to the 00z Euro landfall location and slightly stronger too.

12z Euro @ 72hrs. :darrow:
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00z Euro @ 72hrs. :darrow:
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2034 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:15 pm

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2035 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:16 pm

12z Euro @ 96hrs., inland over South-Central Texas @ 997 millibars.

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2036 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:18 pm

must be showing a perfect upper environment as it is not weakening much at all over land. This also would promote the obscene rainfall amounts
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2037 Postby Stormcenter » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:20 pm

Strengthening storm over Texas does not seem plausible so I'm very skeptical.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2038 Postby ColdMiser123 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:21 pm

Drifting ESE at hour 114. Going to show a reemergence over open waters, like 0z.
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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2039 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:21 pm

Back over water and strengthening @ 120hrs. :eek:

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Re: ATL: HARVEY - Models

#2040 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:21 pm

12z Euro is pretty close to yesterday's 12z run, just a tad slower. IMO.
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