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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#141 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:03 am

Here are the actual 00z UKMET plots, slight shift west in the long range with landfall in Puerto Rico this run:

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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#142 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:05 am

Have a feeling Euro will shift west
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#143 Postby joey » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:14 am

Ivanhater wrote:Have a feeling Euro will shift west


yep may follow the gfs and cmc both west
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#144 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:47 am

joey wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Have a feeling Euro will shift west


yep may follow the gfs and cmc both west


Pretty strong signal of high pressure off the east coast in a week
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#145 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:07 am

Ivanhater wrote:
joey wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Have a feeling Euro will shift west


yep may follow the gfs and cmc both west


Pretty strong signal of high pressure off the east coast in a week


GFS ensembles have been pretty consistent with the pattern last 4 runs:
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We'll see what the 00z ECMWF run has to show, but the 12z ECMWF ensembles would suggest a westward shift as well:
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#146 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:15 am

00z ECMWF through 72 hours, strengthening system heading towards the Lesser Antilles:

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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#147 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:24 am

USTropics wrote:00z ECMWF through 72 hours, strengthening system heading towards the Lesser Antilles:

https://image.ibb.co/bt9Tg5/ecmwf_uv850 ... fh0_72.gif

Directly on top of the Hebert box, ridge starts building in.
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#148 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:30 am

Jose is further east this run and much weaker so at this forecast hour, shouldn't have as much interaction as the 12z ECMWF run (short term track looks very similar so far, will check high-res ECMWF shortly for PR/Hispaniola):

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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#149 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:35 am

00z ECMWF does have landfall in Puerto Rico:

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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#150 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:38 am

No magic door in sight yet.
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#151 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:43 am

No SE Florida hit this run, although it did shift a bit closer to the west.
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#152 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:45 am

Slightly north of the GFS but the upper setup looks almost identical
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#153 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:50 am

CMC also in agreement:

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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#154 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:51 am

Okay now this isn't funny. A Jacksonville area direct landfall potential uh? I saw the 0Z GFS run and this is not funny at all!! I'm not going to get all uptight again and I'm hoping that some type of change will happen with this and I'm going to be interested in seeing the Euro run coming up shortly, but the GFS run definitely is quite disturbing, and what makes the GFS run very scary for me is the fact that not only is it targeting the Jacksonville area for a extremely rare landfall as a major hurricane, but it would happen on my birthday (Sept 25)

I'm just not going to look at that right now. I'm just going to take a look at the next Euro run and other models and see what happens. I am taking this one day at a time, but the ridging being analyzed right along the U.S. East Coast and seaboard on GFS is worrisome . We do not need this obviously in Florida right now after what we just went through Irma. Wow. This is feeling like Groundhog Day.
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#155 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:53 am

northjaxpro wrote:Okay now this isn't funny Jacksonville area saw this 0Z GFS run and this is not funny at all!! I'm not going to get all uptight again and I'm hoping that some type of change will happen with this and I'm going to be interested in seeing the Euro run coming up shortly, but the GFS run definitely is not funny and what makes the GFS run very very scary for me is the fact that not only is it targeting the Jacksonville area for a extremely rare landfall as a major hurricane,but it's on my birthday (Sept 25)

I'm just not going to look at that right now I'm just going to take a look at the next Euro run and other models and see what happens. I am taking this one day at a time, but the ridging being analyzed right along the U.S. East Coast and seaboard on GFS is worrisome . We do not need this obviously in Florida right now after what we just went through Irma. Wow. This is feeling like Groundhog Day.

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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#156 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:59 am

Cliffhanger (stay tuned for 1:45pm EST)
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#157 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:01 am

:uarrow: I hope you are right.Heavens sake for all concerned. I pray this next storm somehow stays away. Ridging pattern still worries me for next week though!
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#158 Postby Airboy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:09 am

Looks a bit like the Irma model runs at the same position?

Edit: Change my mind, going a bit more west before turning north I see, but the end is a bit similar.
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#159 Postby drezee » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:48 am

The trend is west and Jose getting out of the way. Jose is the forecast...he determines the ultimate placement and strength of the western edge of the ridge...FL to ME still in play
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Re: ATL: Invest 96L - Models

#160 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:02 am

:uarrow:


Well, if Jose starts finally moving north over the next couple of days, that would not bode well indeed. This would allow sufficient height rises at 200 mb and 500 mb along the U. S. Eastern seaboard. This would be a potential ominous scenario for the developing tropical cyclone (soon to be Lee or Maria) approaching from the southeast in the coming days next week.
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