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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#121 Postby Ken711 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:35 pm

weathaguyry wrote:After the turn, it appears that a ridge will build over this, and make it head WNW and eventually NW, after that there are the dying remnants of Irma over the Ohio/WV area, that would kick this out to sea if it moves off shore, or throw it back into land somewhere if it stays there, it will all depend on how far South/West he can get after the loop, and what the remnants of Irma do as he rounds the ridge, Once he completes his loop, models will likely have a better hold on him, since they aren't always perfect with predicting loops or anything for that matter


I don't think that low will have much affect. It looks like the loop will be slower to finish.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#122 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:41 pm

weathaguyry wrote:After the turn, it appears that a ridge will build over this, and make it head WNW and eventually NW, after that there are the dying remnants of Irma over the Ohio/WV area, that would kick this out to sea if it moves off shore, or throw it back into land somewhere if it stays there, it will all depend on how far South/West he can get after the loop, and what the remnants of Irma do as he rounds the ridge, Once he completes his loop, models will likely have a better hold on him, since they aren't always perfect with predicting loops or anything for that matter


There also seems to be an upper level low or trough pushing into the Great Lakes on September 18ish, which could be what would turns it back inland if close enough.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#123 Postby weathaguyry » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:42 pm

Ken711 wrote:
weathaguyry wrote:After the turn, it appears that a ridge will build over this, and make it head WNW and eventually NW, after that there are the dying remnants of Irma over the Ohio/WV area, that would kick this out to sea if it moves off shore, or throw it back into land somewhere if it stays there, it will all depend on how far South/West he can get after the loop, and what the remnants of Irma do as he rounds the ridge, Once he completes his loop, models will likely have a better hold on him, since they aren't always perfect with predicting loops or anything for that matter


I don't think that low will have much affect. It looks like the loop will be slower to finish.


I wasn't really that clear, but I was talking about the effects that the trough would have once the got closer to the US coastline, maybe a week from now? The GFS has what I'm pretty sure is a shortwave lurking around Ohio in this timeframe. :D
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#124 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:57 pm

weathaguyry wrote:
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weathaguyry wrote:After the turn, it appears that a ridge will build over this, and make it head WNW and eventually NW, after that there are the dying remnants of Irma over the Ohio/WV area, that would kick this out to sea if it moves off shore, or throw it back into land somewhere if it stays there, it will all depend on how far South/West he can get after the loop, and what the remnants of Irma do as he rounds the ridge, Once he completes his loop, models will likely have a better hold on him, since they aren't always perfect with predicting loops or anything for that matter


I don't think that low will have much affect. It looks like the loop will be slower to finish.


I wasn't really that clear, but I was talking about the effects that the trough would have once the got closer to the US coastline, maybe a week from now? The GFS has what I'm pretty sure is a shortwave lurking around Ohio in this timeframe. :D


yes.. but it all depends on how far south it goes. if its far enough then the trough wont pick it up hence the UKMET and a couple others.
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#125 Postby Evenstar » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:53 pm

Powellrm wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
cjrciadt wrote:Considering how the UKMEt has done with Irma.. I'm already have this in my radar.. :x
When will we get our first NAM post on this thread?


You leave the NAM out of this.


Who do I blame for making me blow Dr. Pepper through my nose, the NAM or you?
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Re: RE: Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#126 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:57 pm

Evenstar wrote:
Powellrm wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:When will we get our first NAM post on this thread?


You leave the NAM out of this.


Who do I blame for making me blow Dr. Pepper through my nose, the NAM or you?



lol..

well the GFS is quite a bit slower and weaker trough and stronger ridge.. looks like its at least going to bahamas.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#127 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:02 pm

I cannot believe I am sitting here watching GFS 00z run for Jose while my weather station at my house still is showing 50MPH gusts outside from Irma. This is surreal.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#128 Postby SouthFLTropics » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:06 pm

Jose is giving me serious vibes of Jeanne.
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#129 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:17 pm

GFS is only like 300 miles slower..

have a feeling quite a few more members will be far west..
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#130 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:20 pm

HURRICANE JOSE ANALYSED POSITION : 23.3N 67.6W

ATCF IDENTIFIER : AL122017

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 11.09.2017 0 23.3N 67.6W 987 62
1200UTC 11.09.2017 12 25.0N 69.4W 991 50
0000UTC 12.09.2017 24 26.6N 69.8W 988 51
1200UTC 12.09.2017 36 27.0N 69.0W 974 66
0000UTC 13.09.2017 48 26.5N 67.6W 969 67
1200UTC 13.09.2017 60 25.3N 67.1W 966 73
0000UTC 14.09.2017 72 24.1N 67.2W 958 73
1200UTC 14.09.2017 84 23.1N 68.6W 958 76
0000UTC 15.09.2017 96 22.8N 70.5W 952 83
1200UTC 15.09.2017 108 22.8N 73.0W 947 86
0000UTC 16.09.2017 120 23.4N 75.5W 944 87
1200UTC 16.09.2017 132 24.1N 77.7W 935 92
0000UTC 17.09.2017 144 25.3N 78.8W 930 93

not what Miami needs after today's unexpected hurricane strike
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#131 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:23 pm

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The 00z UKMET looms absolutely terrible for Florida. This just cant be happening. I am speachless...


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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#132 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:27 pm

just wait for the .. it wont be strong because of the SST's posts coming soon... lol
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#133 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:30 pm

I guess this is a west shift for the UKMET>> well it both faster more north and more west.. so yeah...\\just toggle the last 2 images..

http://flhurricane.com/modelanimator.ph ... 7&title=12
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#134 Postby SFLcane » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:34 pm

Are you kidding me?? :(
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#135 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:35 pm

if the UKMET leads the pack this far out.. thats pretty amazing..
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#136 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:44 pm

I swear if this is another Florida hit...
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#137 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:46 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:if the UKMET leads the pack this far out.. thats pretty amazing..


No power, downed power, and tree debris everywhere here in Hobe Sound because the Ukmet showed the track we saw today with Irma... Gotta at least give it some consideration...
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#138 Postby Blown Away » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:46 pm

Blown Away wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:if the UKMET leads the pack this far out.. thats pretty amazing..


No power, downed power lines, and tree debris everywhere here in Hobe Sound because the Ukmet showed the track we saw today with Irma... Gotta at least give it some consideration...
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#139 Postby SFLcane » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:53 pm

Wow lol... Getting blasted here in my grandmas house in vero beach complete darkness power went out few hrs ago. Gusts 80+ earlier this evening now still in 50's
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Re: ATL: JOSE - Models

#140 Postby bahamaswx » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:55 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:if the UKMET leads the pack this far out.. thats pretty amazing..


UKMET led the pack with Ike being pushed far south by the ridge when Ike was in a similar location.
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