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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11561 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:05 pm

KBBOCA wrote:NWS Miami‏Verified account @NWSMiami 2m2 minutes ago

***Fast-moving tornado just reported at Fort Lauderdale International Airport moving NW crossing I-595!** #Irma

Headed right towards me (my home). Oh crap.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11562 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:06 pm

John Morales‏Verified account @JohnMoralesNBC6 2m2 minutes ago

Confirmed tornado spotted FLL at 2pm. Tornado warning valid until 2:15 pm @NBC6

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11563 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:06 pm

Probably about a 90% chance that any strengthing is over, so now it's just a waiting game
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11564 Postby Janie2006 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:08 pm

FLC011-086-099-101815-
/O.CON.KMFL.TO.W.0037.000000T0000Z-170910T1815Z/
Miami-Dade FL-Broward FL-Palm Beach FL-
200 PM EDT SUN SEP 10 2017

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 215 PM EDT FOR
NORTHEASTERN MIAMI-DADE...EASTERN BROWARD AND SOUTHEASTERN PALM BEACH
COUNTIES...

At 159 PM EDT, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado
was located over Hollywood, moving northwest at 70 mph.

HAZARD...Tornado.

SOURCE...Radar indicated rotation.

IMPACT...Flying debris will be dangerous to those caught without
shelter. Mobile homes will be damaged or destroyed. Damage
to roofs, windows, and vehicles will occur. Tree damage is
likely.

Locations impacted include...
Fort Lauderdale, Hollywood, Coral Springs, Pompano Beach and Davie.


Exactly the kind of thing we've been talking about. In hurricanes these tornadoes are going to be fast. Extremely fast. Here, for example, the tornado is estimated to be moving at 70 mph.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11565 Postby Meteorcane » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:08 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Probably about a 90% chance that any strengthing is over, so now it's just a waiting game


I would say 100% chance strengthening is over and weakening has commenced looks like a Cat.2 based on latest recon
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11566 Postby wx247 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:08 pm

Max sustained winds now down to 120 mph.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11567 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:09 pm

Sorry for the typo information out of key largo
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11568 Postby JaxGator » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:10 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
JaxGator wrote:It's stating to go down hill here with the combination of the Nor' Easter and Irma's rainbands coming up from the south. And we had a tornado warning around Cresent Beach near the St. John's- Flagler county line south of St. Augustine.


Yeah I believe that expired. No word yet if it touched down.

There will.be several quick spin up twisters the next 24 hours or so with this landfalling cyclone


True, it'll be probably like what South Florida has yesterday and still ongoing.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11569 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:10 pm

SO far this is the best cam...thanks for whoever posted it..


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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11570 Postby NC George » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:11 pm

Janie2006 wrote:They call it the "opportunity of a lifetime". I call it the opportunity for an early trip to the afterlife. Evidently they aren't taking this seriously.


The water isn't coming back until the wind shifts to the other direction. This type of low water happens here in NC, water will be really low on one side of the sound, high on the other. On the Outer Banks, when the winds shift, the sudden rush of water is what frequently opens up the new 'inlets' in the OBX.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11571 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:11 pm

Meteorcane wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Probably about a 90% chance that any strengthing is over, so now it's just a waiting game


I would say 100% chance strengthening is over and weakening has commenced looks like a Cat.2 based on latest recon


I hope you are right. Yes, storm surge will still be really bad due to the size. But ask anyone, and I'm they will tell you that everything would still be worse if it is a Cat 5
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11572 Postby Shoshana » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:11 pm

I saw a report about a crane collapse on a building under construction in Miami. I remember reading a few days back about how people living near these cranes were encouraged to evacuate because if they collapsed they could take out other buildings and or flail about in high winds.

The article is a bunch of pictures taken from various people's condos in surrounding buildings.....

http://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/gallery-crane-collapses-in-miami-as-hurricane-irma-slams-florida
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11573 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:12 pm

Janie2006 wrote:They call it the "opportunity of a lifetime". I call it the opportunity for an early trip to the afterlife. Evidently they aren't taking this seriously.


Agreed. I do not know why anyone would be there.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11574 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:14 pm

wx247 wrote:Max sustained winds now down to 120 mph.


Still a strong storm and I think it will still probably be between 90 mph and 100 mph by the time it gets to Tampa, Unless it slides even further inland
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11575 Postby Steve » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:15 pm

BYG Jacob wrote:
Ptarmigan wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:
A major tropical cyclone as large as Irma is terrible period. Cat 4 or Cat 5 it still equally destructive.


Exactly. A large hurricane is dangerous because they produce higher storm surge.

Again, I acknowledged Irma is a very dangerous hurricane, my point is she would be much more dangerous if she hadn't hit Cuba.


No question about that for anyone who saw Barbuda end of last week. We ain't out the woods by a long shot and millions of people have effects ahead. Also we will have to wait for live reports out of the hardest hit areas of the Keys. Potential was extraordinary, but so far almost everything I've seen has been minimal compared to a certain Weatherbell met's tweet the other day of a $1T storm. We have a long way to go, but I don't think anyone would argue with the fact that so far it's been the opposite of Harvey which didn't have much bark but had a lot of bite. Irma has been the opposite. Bark for days and days but nowhere near what we could have faced here in the USA. Caribbean Islands have been destroyed, and maybe some of The Keys are, but reports are still slow there.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11576 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:15 pm

KBBOCA wrote:NWS Miami‏Verified account @NWSMiami 2m2 minutes ago

***Fast-moving tornado just reported at Fort Lauderdale International Airport moving NW crossing I-595!** #Irma

I can't picture what a 70mph moving tornado looks like
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11577 Postby FLeastcoast » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:15 pm

KBBOCA wrote:John Morales‏Verified account @JohnMoralesNBC6 2m2 minutes ago

Confirmed tornado spotted FLL at 2pm. Tornado warning valid until 2:15 pm @NBC6

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This is right over my Mom's house and I can't reach her. Do you guys have any info on actual touchdown locations?? Thx
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11578 Postby Michele B » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:16 pm

ava_ati wrote:
JaxGator wrote:It's stating to go down hill here with the combination of the Nor' Easter and Irma's rainbands coming up from the south. And we had a tornado warning around Cresent Beach near the St. John's- Flagler county line south of St. Augustine.


Very odd to me, it sounds like we are getting worse conditions here than they are in Orlando at this point in time, from the reports I've seen here.


It's the nature of the beast. It just depends on where the bands come in.

During Andrew, we lived in Ft. Lauderdale. Less than 100 miles away. We didn't get too many rain bands, but some north of us did! We just happened to be in-between really bad squall and rain bands.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#11579 Postby KBBOCA » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:16 pm

PTPatrick wrote:So I'm starting to think surges north of Naples will almost definately underperform. This is just not an optimal angle to pile up and bring in surge above there. Sure the water will come back around and be higher than where it started but I have trouble seeing the epic surge for points north verifying. Which is a good thing. Only time will tell. If you look at donna there was also surge in Naples and Marco but I can't find reports of epic surge north of there. I should say tho, it doesn't take huge surge to do damage in many of these areas as they have not really been built up to mitigate it. Much of the peninsula below the big bend just really takes a perfect storm to create humongous surge because of coastal topography and the typical angle of approach. Back home in Mississippi and really across the northern gulf , the big surges are never preceded by water pushing out. It just comes in, and then in some more and then in some more and then boom it comes in all at once.


You could well be right. A respected Surge analyst is tweeting this:

Rick Luettich‏ @RLuettich

Winds beginning to blow water out of Tampa Bay, water levels are falling. Emptying the bay will help reduce surge following eye passage.

https://twitter.com/RLuettich/status/906940127989157889

Though in a subsequent tweet he reminds people this is still an extremely dangerous storm for Tampa...
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

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