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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#561 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:50 am

92L is reactivated.

AL, 92, 2016090912, , BEST, 0, 240N, 794W, 25, 1014, LO
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Re: Weak low pressure in Eastern Florida straits

#562 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:51 am

Shear drops off quite a bit to the west of key west. could have decent shot later tonight and tomorrow.
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Re: Weak low pressure in Eastern Florida straits

#563 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:51 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#564 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:55 am

THe models will likely pick up on it for the 18z run now that it has a closed circ and will be initialized as such.

Also yet another instance where shear has helped produce a system..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#565 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:57 am

92L is currently in an area of 25 knot high shear but looks to be moving into an area of lower 10 knot shear.
http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... d=shr&zoom
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#566 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:04 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#567 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:05 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:THe models will likely pick up on it for the 18z run now that it has a closed circ and will be initialized as such.

Also yet another instance where shear has helped produce a system..


Does this actually occur? I've heard some on here saying models like GFS and EURO don't need a closed circulation to model storms correctly but other times people say just the opposite. Regardless I'm impressed with the appearance today I will be watching closely over the weekend.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#568 Postby Nimbus » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:08 pm

Thank you Luis!

If WXman57 wants to wait before upgrading this to a depression its OK with me.
Hermine 72 hour forecast by the NHC was spot on last time..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#569 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:11 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:THe models will likely pick up on it for the 18z run now that it has a closed circ and will be initialized as such.

Also yet another instance where shear has helped produce a system..


Does this actually occur? I've heard some on here saying models like GFS and EURO don't need a closed circulation to model storms correctly but other times people say just the opposite. Regardless I'm impressed with the appearance today I will be watching closely over the weekend.


Too an extent yes. for this situation the models dont initialize a closed low so that will be inputted along with all available data which will change things. with a large well defined wave typically they dont need a well defined circ.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#570 Postby MississippiWx » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:20 pm

Looking at the GFS 200mb wind forecast, 92L should be moving into an area of lighter (still marginal) wind shear with anticyclonic flow aloft. Just like with Hermine, however, it will likely be able to help itself with the generation of more thunderstorms. 92L will be hugging the periphery of a small upper level anticyclone, so it may not ever shed the hostile upper level winds unless it's able to generate enough thunderstorms to help tug the anticyclone towards it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#571 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:21 pm

LLC is exposed right now.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#572 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:57 pm

Satellite wind data indicate that low pressure located in the
Straits of Florida is producing squalls of 30 to 35 mph east of its
center. If the system's thunderstorm activity persists or increases
in organization, it could result in the formation of a tropical
depression later today or Saturday. However, even if a depression
forms, upper-level winds are not favorable for significant
development while the system moves westward into the southeastern
Gulf of Mexico. This system could produce squalls and gusty winds
in the Florida Keys tonight and Saturday.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...medium...40 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...40 percent
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#573 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:58 pm

up to 40%
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#574 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:03 pm

Look at the NHC's wording "it could result in the formation of a tropical depression later today or Saturday"
Wow that went fast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#575 Postby Caneman12 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:05 pm

I expect this to become a depression by tomorrow then a storm once in the gulf
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#576 Postby terstorm1012 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:07 pm

I figured this is exactly what would happen with 92L last week---and here we are!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#577 Postby abajan » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:07 pm

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Of the three invests, I think this is the one we really need to keep an eye on.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#578 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:33 pm

If this is indeed containing a closed circulation, advisories on TD 10 would need to start as soon as possible since a Tropical Storm Warning would be needed for some areas.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

#579 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:39 pm

18z Best Track:

AL, 92, 2016090918, , BEST, 0, 241N, 802W, 30, 1013, LO
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Discussion

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