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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3121 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:22 pm

bg1 wrote:That blob is about the same size as Matthew! :double:



Actually I think that blood is bigger then Hurricane Matthew
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#3122 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:23 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3123 Postby Weather Watcher » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:23 pm

That blob is huge!!!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3124 Postby sponger » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:23 pm

What are the winds in there?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3125 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:26 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3126 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:26 pm

sponger wrote:What are the winds in there?


In the blob? I would guess about 65 kt or so. In the core? Most likely still 130 kt. Using a Dvorak estimate, I would say T6.5 (almost T7.0) right now. If that blob was its own storm, that would probably be enough for T4.0...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3127 Postby hipshot » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:28 pm

sponger wrote:What are the winds in there?

What is that blob, it almost looks like a biological cell dividing. I don't know if I have ever seen that before.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3128 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:29 pm

Matthew's eyewall is looking like a doughnut again. When's the next recon? Don't tell me it's the one wheels up at 0930z. :(
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3129 Postby Michele B » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:31 pm

hipshot wrote:
sponger wrote:What are the winds in there?

What is that blob, it almost looks like a biological cell dividing. I don't know if I have ever seen that before.


I agree. that is as weird as I've ever seen.....
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3130 Postby cjrciadt » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:33 pm

Actually reminds me of an audio cassette.. In rewind mode :lol:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3131 Postby crimi481 » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:33 pm

Its possibly a dual core system - dancing together/ fighting for the most energy. Almost a hybrid. Its been happening in recent years..
Would take long time to become one- if ever.

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3132 Postby Macrocane » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:33 pm

Matthew is such an interesting storm, even that parasitic blob that is stealing part of the spotlight.
It seems that Matthew has fought the shear again and looks very healthy right now.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3133 Postby Sanibel » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:33 pm

Looks to me like the front coming through Texas might decide the steering issues here and be Florida's friend.



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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3134 Postby BZSTORM » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:34 pm

HDGator wrote:
Michele B wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:This makes me imagine...before the satellite era, how did people find out of incoming hurricanes?


Oh! I CAN ANSWER THIS!!!

When I was a little kid, I remember getting the storm's COORDINATES from the local "weatherman" once or twice a day during the newscast (which lasted THIRTY MINUTES TWICE A DAY!!!), and then you would go to a map....a grid, if you will....and PLOT the coordinates they said the storm was at. Your daily newspaper would also publish the COORDINATES on a little mini-grid, so you could see if it was approaching your city.

There was NO "radar image" to actually see it for yourself. You just plotted out the eye's coordinates and kept track of its general motion.

Well, this WAS the '50's and '60's, so it was pretty crude. But I LOVED doing it!

I think if I had it to do over, I might have gone to school and become a meteorologist myself.


A Cat 4 in the south Caribbean and they decide to throw the Way-Back time machine switch?

For you kids new to the tropics, your local newspaper (you get one of those don't you?) will print a 'Hurricane Tracking Map' at the beginning of the season. This will be cut (or torn) out of the paper and attached to the refrigerator door for the duration of the season. As Michele said, you need to take your pencils (not a pen so we can erase) and mark the storm location with the updates from the local radio or tv and it's typically a competition to see who gets it first. When the X's are pointing in your direction, you start to get concerned. When the breeze starts picking up, the shutters go up. When the barometer starts dropping like there's no tomorrow, you hold on tightly for the rough ride. In South Florida we always had the 'Early Warning System' of storm reports from the Bahama's / Cuba to give us a short advance warning.

So get out those tracking maps and start plotting.


Err some of us still do this... In Belize it's literally only in last couple years that we got touch phones with G3 & now G4 (I don't pay for phone internet its too expensive on top of the DSL, so when elec gets cut = no dsl. I'm stuck with radio giving updates) .It was dial up and satellite only in 2001 when Iris came calling. And try tracking a storm with satellite when they throttle your speed down to less than dial up because you used up all your bandwidth allocation in like 27 days of the month. So it was radio relaying from our Met office NHC coordinates and then plotting it on a map - I still have mine up on wall one in the kitchen and the other my office.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3135 Postby ozonepete » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:35 pm



As good an explanation as we have right now, I guess. :) The hard part is explaining how it contributes/hurts the main circulation of Matthew and when it finally merges or dissipates.

Thanks for that, 1900. I follow, and like, Anthony a lot. :)
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3136 Postby ozonepete » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:39 pm

Would love to have a couple of Gulfstream IVs riding around in Matthew and the blob at the same time. Such an odd configuration. Btw I have seen this in some really powerful typhoons in the NW PAC a few times but not as extreme as this where the blob to the east is larger and stronger than the core of the main TC. Fascinating.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3137 Postby p1nheadlarry » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:43 pm

Weather Watcher wrote:
That blob is huge!!!


It is tremendous.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3138 Postby O Town » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:44 pm

hipshot wrote:
sponger wrote:What are the winds in there?

What is that blob, it almost looks like a biological cell dividing. I don't know if I have ever seen that before.

I have been wondering the same thing. It's been there all day yesterday and today, always staying separate from Matthew. Like it's main source for inflow. They almost came together as one this morning, but separated again. I have never seen such a strong hurricane with a twin blob for such a long period of time. Very interesting...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3139 Postby Macrocane » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:44 pm

There won't be recon for the next 2 advisories but given the increase in organization I would put the intensity again at 135-140 kt.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#3140 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:44 pm

Would this impede the models in any way? This thing looks massive.
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