ATL: MATTHEW - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1861 Postby Hurrilurker » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:01 pm

Remember, just 24 hours ago NHC was forecasting 75kt winds for this time. We're up to 100kt officially and probably higher right now. They don't have a great handle on the intensity and they may not have a great handle on the track either. I don't put that much stock in the models and forecasts at this point, this might be one of those storms that creates its own conditions and does the unexpected in the face of all scientific evidence. It's been pushing a whole lot of dry air and shear in front of it to the west for a long time now and shrugged it off.

Regardless of when this turn happens, it looks like Cuba, Haiti, and the Bahamas are probably in for some nasty conditions and flooding potential. If I lived in any of those places I'd be stocking up on supplies and scouting shelters right now. Jamaica is not in the clear either, they could get hit hard it it takes longer to turn.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1862 Postby chris_fit » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:01 pm

galaxy401 wrote:
JaxGator wrote:Eye is contracting according to this. Not good.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/m ... 2hr_03.gif


Looks like it also stopped moving in a southerly direction as well.


Recon confirmed otherwise - still a S component
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1863 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:03 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see this get up to high cat 4 strength given what we've seeing right this second. And all this without having a decent eye on the thing yet.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1864 Postby terstorm1012 » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:05 pm

so far the forecasts have been pretty on, including the WSW motion (other than intensity, which we've never really had a grasp on). I have a tough time seeing this miss Jamaica and I think it might be a direct hit there, which would be devastating.
After that I think across Cuba around Guantanamo and then into the Bahamas. Might miss Florida by inches. I wouldn't be off my guard if I lived in Florida just yet.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1865 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:05 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1866 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:06 pm

Likely around 105 knots based on recon. Based on FL/SFMR ratio, likely still intensifying.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1867 Postby tolakram » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:07 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1868 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:08 pm

How low can he go!?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1869 Postby drezee » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:08 pm

drezee wrote:
NotoSans wrote:Latest recon pass supports an initial intensity of around 95 kt. The pressure seems to have leveled off though which suggests RI may have came to an end.

since when is a 3 mb drop in 1.6 hours leveling off??? 1.8+ mbar/hr :D :D

NHC: a drop of 1.75 mbar/hour or 42 mbars in a day
Still RI...

Still RI down 8 more MB!!!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1870 Postby KWT » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:08 pm

Looks like the NHC are going to have to up the intensity forecast, the eye is popping out nicely and the structure looks great. Once it clears SA I think everything it going to come together for a strong major hurricane.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1871 Postby NDG » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:09 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1872 Postby KWT » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:10 pm

chris_fit wrote:
Recon confirmed otherwise - still a S component


Yep still got a decent WSW motion to it, not totally unexpected given the models but it will become more impressive if it were to carry on for too much longer.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1873 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:10 pm

tolakram wrote:Latest

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Been waiting to see the eye fully pop out. You don't often see cat 3 hurricanes without a decent looking eye on satellite.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1874 Postby p1nheadlarry » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:11 pm

terstorm1012 wrote:so far the forecasts have been pretty on, including the WSW motion (other than intensity, which we've never really had a grasp on). I have a tough time seeing this miss Jamaica and I think it might be a direct hit there, which would be devastating.
After that I think across Cuba around Guantanamo and then into the Bahamas. Might miss Florida by inches. I wouldn't be off my guard if I lived in Florida just yet.


I think the eyewall will affect the eastern tip of Jamaica. Any more west and Kingston (looked it up last night, Kingston faces south on the coast towards the eastern end of the island) could take a direct hit.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1875 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:11 pm

Worth noting we're running over a half T number ahead of Dvorak here. Given this hasn't cleared out an eye, and is at best a T5.0 via a CDO pattern; the JTWC would likely have this at T3.5-T4.5.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1876 Postby GCANE » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:11 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1877 Postby TimeZone » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:12 pm

tolakram wrote:Latest

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Boy did he filter that dry-air out fast. Matthew isn't playing any games! :lol:
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1878 Postby KWT » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:14 pm

Super image GCANE, that image really shows why the NW quadrant of the hurricane is getting such decent winds.

Still open eyewall more or less to the south, which may clear and tighten up as it moves away from S.America.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1879 Postby bamajammer4eva » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:16 pm

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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#1880 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:18 pm

bamajammer4eva wrote:Steering For storms with 950-969 mb

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... om=Z&time=

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That could get this more SW than any model foresees
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