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#901 Postby wzrgirl1 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:14 pm

northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: Looking at the Satellite loop above and following the forward motion of the eye, Danny is definitely moving west-northwest, definitely a more decided north of west the past several hours.


What would that mean for the overall track?
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#902 Postby SeminoleWind » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:19 pm

These little (size) storms always worry me, i know they are 2 different set ups and systems and in no way alike. But i always think of Andrew when i see these type of small storms.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Hurricane- Discussion

#903 Postby BobHarlem » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:21 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: Looking at the Satellite loop above and following the forward motion of the eye, Danny is definitely moving west-northwest, definitely a more decided north of west the past several hours.


What would that mean for the overall track?


It looks 100% on track to me, http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html

That link has the ability to overlay the forecast track on top of the satellite image, it matches up. A bit early to be wobble watching anyway.
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#904 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:22 pm

Based on the size and depth, knowing Dvorak can underestimate these storms, I would go with 85 kt personally (pressure 986mb).
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#905 Postby tropicwatch » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:24 pm

TUTT or not GFS does have it moving further west tomorrow.

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#906 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:27 pm

wzrgirl1 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: Looking at the Satellite loop above and following the forward motion of the eye, Danny is definitely moving west-northwest, definitely a more decided north of west the past several hours.


What would that mean for the overall track?


The overall track guidance is on schedule. Danny previouslywas and is currently forecast to remain on a west-northwest header through at least for the next 3-4 days. That is why for now the focud is on the Leeward Islsnds and if the system will move over them or just north of them. This remains up in the air of course.
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#907 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:32 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:Based on the size and depth, knowing Dvorak can underestimate these storms, I would go with 85 kt personally (pressure 986mb).


I would not doubt that possibility. Small tropical cyclones have the potential and in the past can intensify rather rapidly given the right conditions. Danny looks to be close to Cat 2 already.
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Hurricane- Discussion

#908 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:33 pm

Danny remains at 70kts.




000
WTNT34 KNHC 210231
TCPAT4

BULLETIN
HURRICANE DANNY ADVISORY NUMBER 11
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042015
1100 PM AST THU AUG 20 2015

...DANNY CONTINUES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE TROPICAL CENTRAL
ATLANTIC...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM AST...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...13.4N 46.6W
ABOUT 970 MI...1560 KM E OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...80 MPH...130 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.24 I
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#909 Postby Blown Away » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:34 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
wzrgirl1 wrote:
northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: Looking at the Satellite loop above and following the forward motion of the eye, Danny is definitely moving west-northwest, definitely a more decided north of west the past several hours.


What would that mean for the overall track?


The overall track guidance is on schedule. Danny previouslywas and is currently forecast to remain on a west-northwest header through at least for the next 3-4 days. That is why for now the focud is on the Leeward Islsnds and if the system will move over them or just north of them. This remains up in the air of course.


The model guidance has been inching north with each run with most off or near the north coasts of the big islands now... The dry air & shear seem to be the issue more than land interaction when it comes to Danny falling apart...
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#910 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:34 pm

Man, what a tiny little system. Very interesting watching to see what happens with it the next few days. Smaller than most thunderstorm complexes over the conus. You guys in the islands, stay safe...even though its small, might pack a punch if it were to hit head on, that is if it stays intact up until that point.





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#911 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:34 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:Danny remains at 70kts.




000
WTNT34 KNHC 210231
TCPAT4

BULLETIN
HURRICANE DANNY ADVISORY NUMBER 11
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042015
1100 PM AST THU AUG 20 2015

...DANNY CONTINUES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE TROPICAL CENTRAL
ATLANTIC...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM AST...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...13.4N 46.6W
ABOUT 970 MI...1560 KM E OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...80 MPH...130 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.24 I


Yeah no doubt in my opinion they have underestimated this storm. That eye is showing up now. Didn't the scale go from 4.0 to 4.5 wouldn't that indicate stronger winds?
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Re: ATL: DANNY - Hurricane- Discussion

#912 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:40 pm

NCSTORMMAN wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:Danny remains at 70kts.




000
WTNT34 KNHC 210231
TCPAT4

BULLETIN
HURRICANE DANNY ADVISORY NUMBER 11
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042015
1100 PM AST THU AUG 20 2015

...DANNY CONTINUES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD OVER THE TROPICAL CENTRAL
ATLANTIC...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM AST...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...13.4N 46.6W
ABOUT 970 MI...1560 KM E OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...80 MPH...130 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 295 DEGREES AT 10 MPH...17 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.24 I


Yeah no doubt in my opinion they have underestimated this storm. That eye is showing up now. Didn't the scale go from 4.0 to 4.5 wouldn't that indicate stronger winds?


I agree. I would say this is approaching cat 2 if not already there. The eye continues to clear out.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/04L/imagery/avn_lalo-animated.gif
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#913 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:43 pm

It is a shame we don't have Recon out there right now because if they were in Danny sampling currently, I am inclined to believe that they would find this hurricane to be stronger than 70 kts.
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#914 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:44 pm

Latest NHC track is exactly what the ECMWF track shows even though model consensus has shifted slightly north. But the NHC track looks to have shifted slightly south at the end.
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#915 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:46 pm

Thank you ozone and NDG,

Both of you have really helped me and I am sure others understand more than I ever have about these tutt's
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#916 Postby Bocadude85 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:50 pm

gatorcane wrote:Latest NHC track is exactly what the ECMWF track shows even though model consensus has shifted slightly north. But the NHC track looks to have shifted slightly south at the end.


I noticed that also. Looks like they are sticking with the EURO
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#917 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:54 pm

Another thing I believe is the pressure relationships don't really apply here. I think a pressure of 1000 would be enough to support a hurricane easily given its size and situation, and 987 or so would be a Cat 2.
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#918 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:57 pm

I am by no means a met, but Danny looks really good tonight. in fact better than he has since it was classified, I think it has to be more than a minimal Cat 1 based only by appearance.
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#919 Postby Steve » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:00 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:I am by no means a met, but Danny looks really good tonight. in fact better than he has since it was classified, I think it has to be more than a minimal Cat 1 based only by appearance.


Agreed. Not sure if it is the final peak, but danny is rolling for the time being and should easily be at it's strongest yet if not ever based on what happens next 36 hours. But yeah. You are right. Also notice the eye is pretty far south in the convective mass.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... oater.html
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#920 Postby ozonepete » Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:03 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:Thank you ozone and NDG,

Both of you have really helped me and I am sure others understand more than I ever have about these tutt's


You're welcome. We all learn here by discussing and NDG is one of the best. He's always pushing you, lol.
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