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#241 Postby MiamiensisWx » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:19 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:It's somewhat tough to say with any certainty what is ailing Blanca currently, but if I had to guess, I'd actually say eyewall replacement. Microwave imagery from this morning showed a rather loose brightness gradient between the warmest part of the eye and coldest updrafts in the eyewall, which is something that is often seen in the latter stages of eyewall replacement. A flaw in this thinking though is that this pass occurred only just at cloud tops were beginning to warm, but it is perhaps possible that the polar orbiter did not have the resolution to resolve the very small inner eyewall well enough to clearly distinguish it, thereby displaying the loose brightness gradient. This is just a hunch at this point, but so far, the convective degradation seems to be in line with what is typically observed during eyewall replacement, where the most robust warming occurs directly adjacent to the eye.

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Good hunch. It's surprising though. Normally you would see an ERC once the storm has leveled off in intensity. Blanca certainly looked like it was in the midst of RI earlier.

That's why my explanation seems to make the most sense. Sometimes (if I recall correctly) strong outer convective bands can, by disrupting flow, halt RI and force an early eyewall replacement.
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#242 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:26 pm

If it were to start an ERC now, I'd think it'd be able to finish.

Jimena 09 did the same thing in same location.
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#243 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:34 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:If it were to start an ERC now, I'd think it'd be able to finish.

Jimena 09 did the same thing in same location.


I recall recon just missing out on catching Jimena being a Cat.5 hurricane, only finding 155mph winds.

But yeah, they sort of look alike too. Eye size.
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#244 Postby HurricaneTracker2031 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:35 pm

Blanca is really getting stronger and is really set to take off and max off the saffir Simpson scale. The conditions surrounding it are so extremely favorable that it will be exploding with intensity. After it weakens later this week it will impact the Baja California peninsula.

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#245 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:36 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:If it were to start an ERC now, I'd think it'd be able to finish.

Jimena 09 did the same thing in same location.


I recall recon just missing out on catching Jimena being a Cat.5 hurricane, only finding 155mph winds.

But yeah, they sort of look alike too. Eye size.


Yea, NHC was conservative with Jimena there.

Hopefully they are not with Blanca.
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#246 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:38 pm

ZCZC MIATCDEP2 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

HURRICANE BLANCA DISCUSSION NUMBER 13
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP022015
400 PM CDT WED JUN 03 2015

Although the convection is not as strong as earlier today, the eye
is warmer and both objective and subjective T-numbers are
oscillating between 6.0 and 6.5 on the Dvorak scale. On this basis,
the initial intensity is now 120 kt. Blanca has the opportunity to
strengthen further during the next 24 hours as the hurricane moves
within an ideal environment of low shear and high ocean heat
content. The intensity forecast continues to be based primarily on
the SHIPS and LGEM models. The HWRF and GFDL have consistently
under-forecast the intensity of Blanca and in fact, are forecasting
rapid weakening during the next 24 hours. Beyond 48 hours, Blanca
will encounter lower SSTs, and a gradual weakening should begin.

Blanca remains trapped within weak steering currents, and the
cyclone has barely moved today. During the next 24 hours, the
hurricane should begin a northwestward track with some increase in
forward speed as a high pressure system over the southwestern United
States and Mexico amplifies, and a mid-level trough approaches the
coast of California. Based on the latest consensus of the GFS and
the ECMWF models, the NHC forecast has been shifted slightly to the
west from the earlier one. It appears that the high pressure over
Mexico will expand westward more than previously indicated,
which has resulted in the small westward shift of the ECMWF/GFS
model consensus.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 03/2100Z 12.3N 104.7W 120 KT 140 MPH
12H 04/0600Z 12.4N 104.8W 125 KT 145 MPH
24H 04/1800Z 13.3N 105.4W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 05/0600Z 14.5N 106.6W 135 KT 155 MPH
48H 05/1800Z 15.8N 107.8W 125 KT 145 MPH
72H 06/1800Z 19.0N 109.7W 100 KT 115 MPH
96H 07/1800Z 22.0N 110.7W 65 KT 75 MPH
120H 08/1800Z 24.5N 112.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...INLAND

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Re: EPAC: BLANCA - Hurricane

#247 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:38 pm

Peak at 140kts.

HURRICANE BLANCA DISCUSSION NUMBER 13
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP022015
400 PM CDT WED JUN 03 2015

Although the convection is not as strong as earlier today, the eye
is warmer and both objective and subjective T-numbers are
oscillating between 6.0 and 6.5 on the Dvorak scale. On this basis,
the initial intensity is now 120 kt. Blanca has the opportunity to
strengthen further during the next 24 hours as the hurricane moves
within an ideal environment of low shear and high ocean heat
content. The intensity forecast continues to be based primarily on
the SHIPS and LGEM models. The HWRF and GFDL have consistently
under-forecast the intensity of Blanca and in fact, are forecasting
rapid weakening during the next 24 hours. Beyond 48 hours, Blanca
will encounter lower SSTs, and a gradual weakening should begin.

Blanca remains trapped within weak steering currents, and the
cyclone has barely moved today. During the next 24 hours, the
hurricane should begin a northwestward track with some increase in
forward speed as a high pressure system over the southwestern United
States and Mexico amplifies, and a mid-level trough approaches the
coast of California. Based on the latest consensus of the GFS and
the ECMWF models, the NHC forecast has been shifted slightly to the
west from the earlier one. It appears that the high pressure over
Mexico will expand westward more than previously indicated,
which has resulted in the small westward shift of the ECMWF/GFS
model consensus.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 03/2100Z 12.3N 104.7W 120 KT 140 MPH
12H 04/0600Z 12.4N 104.8W 125 KT 145 MPH
24H 04/1800Z 13.3N 105.4W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 05/0600Z 14.5N 106.6W 135 KT 155 MPH
48H 05/1800Z 15.8N 107.8W 125 KT 145 MPH
72H 06/1800Z 19.0N 109.7W 100 KT 115 MPH
96H 07/1800Z 22.0N 110.7W 65 KT 75 MPH
120H 08/1800Z 24.5N 112.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...INLAND

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#248 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:40 pm

We need microwave to confirm if there is an ERC.
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#249 Postby TheAustinMan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:40 pm

I don't see a lot of folk using Shortwave Infrared imagery, but it seems to suggest we're in the midst of a greatly expanding eye; probably some ERC action going on in there.

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#250 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:55 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:We need microwave to confirm if there is an ERC.


MW imagery has been scarce for Blanca yet abundant for Andres.
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#251 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:02 pm

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Looks like dry air trying to get ingested into the circulation of #Blanca on its left quadrant.

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#252 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:16 pm

Well that was a huge disappointment (I'm used to it after 2 years of boring/annoying weather), I'm no longer angry that recon is not going into it before its a weakening TD because it would have found nothing historic as of this afternoon (key last wording there)...I'm kind of relieved actually :lol: .
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#253 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:17 pm

Michael Ventrice @MJVentrice 7m
@wxtrackercody Jason Dunion et al. has found some tropical cyclones have a diurnal cycle that consists of radially outward propagating...

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@wxtrackercody gravity waves, resulting in a periodic IR brightness temperatures. Looks like Blanca experiencing it

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Translation: assuming the cycle continues, Blanca's core convection should begin increasing this evening and throughout the overnight hours.
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#254 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:21 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:Michael Ventrice @MJVentrice 7m
@wxtrackercody Jason Dunion et al. has found some tropical cyclones have a diurnal cycle that consists of radially outward propagating...

Michael Ventrice ‏@MJVentrice 6m
@wxtrackercody gravity waves, resulting in a periodic IR brightness temperatures. Looks like Blanca experiencing it

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Translation: assuming the cycle continues, Blanca's core convection should begin increasing this evening and throughout the overnight hours.


Well two back to back storms have experienced this. I wonder if there's some kind of correlation.
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#255 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:29 pm

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#256 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:36 pm

ERC done? :uarrow:
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#257 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:50 pm

Kingarabian wrote:ERC done? :uarrow:

Not sure there was ever any eyewall replacement cycle to begin with.
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#258 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:00 pm

spiral wrote:tremendous storm none the less but looks likely this one was just another to add to the growing list of over top very bullish unrealistic phd pro met twitter forecasts.


How was it unrealistic? It's not even finished. And what list are you talking about?
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#259 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:01 pm

spiral wrote:tremendous storm none the less but looks likely this one was just another to add to the growing list of over top very bullish unrealistic phd pro met twitter forecasts.


Too soon to say. It's got another 24-48 hours left.
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#260 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:14 pm

----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 03 JUN 2015 Time : 211500 UTC
Lat : 12:14:58 N Lon : 104:38:57 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
6.6 / 937.2mb/129.6kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
6.4 6.3 6.3

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 17 km

Center Temp : -5.6C Cloud Region Temp : -68.6C
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