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#1721 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:09 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:What exactly is an anti-cyclone?


Anti-cyclone is high pressure (and clockwise in the northern hemisphere) and if situation over top of a tropical cyclone at upper levels, can aide in ventilation and strengthening.

Speaking of, if you watch the high cloud elements west of the center and south of Puerto Rico, they are now out of the southeast, whereas they were out of the south earlier.

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#1722 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:09 pm

psyclone wrote:I agree the system appears to be organizing this afternoon, albeit from a poor baseline. it will be very interesting to see if this can persist as we head toward Dmax.



first time in its life that convection has actually developed over the center and not just being covered by high clouds lol..
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#1723 Postby ozonepete » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:12 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:What exactly is an anti-cyclone?


A high pressure area where winds blow in a clockwise direction around the center. A hurricane is a large cyclone where winds blow counterclockwise around the center. But up at around 200 - 300 mb or 30,000 feet and up, a well developed hurricane has an anti-cyclone (high pressure) are above it. That anti-cyclone takes all of that extremely fast uprushing air and blows it out away from the storm. So it's the exhaust system. Without it the hurricane would be like a fireplace where you covered over the chimney - the fire would die out.


Fixed "hurricane is large cyclone" lol
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#1724 Postby adam0983 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:15 pm

Does anyone think Florida can't get hit with Tropical Storm Erika at all and it goes how to sea. What kind of conditionals can we expect in Miami,Broward,Palm Beach County based on the current track.
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#1725 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:18 pm

adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think Florida can't get hit with Tropical Storm Erika at all and it goes how to sea. What kind of conditionals can we expect in Miami,Broward,Palm Beach County based on the current track.


based on projected path hurricane force gust at least on the coast and possibly tropical storm forc gust on the west coast of Florida but that could change in later outlooks

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#1726 Postby summersquall » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:19 pm

Greetings all, so good and comforting to see all the familiar names and some new folks. Was thinking of Aric Tuesday night and am so glad to see him. Denver. Wow.

Getting a little anxious here. Lol. Better organized and quite large. Always a good time to reiterate that hurricanes aren't points on a map.

My best to all in the islands and PR.


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#1727 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:20 pm

adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think Florida can't get hit with Tropical Storm Erika at all and it goes how to sea. What kind of conditionals can we expect in Miami,Broward,Palm Beach County based on the current track.


Going out to sea (Atlantic Ocean) is looking less and less likely, best option if it dies out which no model supports that right now.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1728 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:27 pm

I live in Florida near Clermont and am watching this as I'm expecting anything from 45mph wind to 115mph wind depending on path and potential intensification but am leaning towards the low end from the NHC path but as has been said things could change and likely will

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#1729 Postby USTropics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:28 pm

To further illustrate that (and because everything is better visually enhanced!):

Anticyclones (Highs):
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Tropical systems have converging air at the surface that rises:
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So with Erika, when you see increasing divergence, it's a good indication an anticyclone is building:
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#1730 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:29 pm

Thanks guys, I learned more here in 3 hours than I ever had in my 6 months studying for myself. lol.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1731 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:29 pm

It's safe to say by now that South Florida will be impacted by Erika, and likely most of the peninsula will be as well. I think the model flops are ending, or will end with the 00z runs with Gulfstream data.

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#1732 Postby rolltide » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:31 pm

It will interesting to see if the convection building over the center continues or if it gets blown off by shear again.
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#1733 Postby hurricanedude » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:32 pm

so question for anyone who wants to go even further into the future......once Erika is done with florida...assuming it takes the northern track how far up the east coast does it ride b4 getting kicked out or is this one that could ride the whole coast all the way to maine?
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#1734 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:33 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:It's safe to say by now that South Florida will be impacted by Erika, and likely most of the peninsula will be as well. I think the model flops are ending, or will end with the 00z runs with Gulfstream data.

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It's not 100% certain but with the 3-Day cone slowly creeping north it's becoming more likely right now.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1735 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:33 pm

Looking at the divergence maps it looks like an anticyclone is popping up over Erika, could lead to more intensification than expected before Puerto Rico so those in PR need to keep tabs on recent developments of Erika

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#1736 Postby TAD » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:33 pm

How do models treat southern Florida? There's a lot of warm water from Okeechobee & south. Is that taken into account or is it considered land? The further south the easier it is to tap into the warm GOM, too. I think this storm will be strengthening as it rolls up the FL east coast.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1737 Postby CronkPSU » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:33 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:I live in Florida near Clermont and am watching this as I'm expecting anything from 45mph wind to 115mph wind depending on path and potential intensification but am leaning towards the low end from the NHC path but as has been said things could change and likely will

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I will never say never after Charley but doubtful we see anything over high tropical force winds in the Orlando metro area...I am bit closer to the East Coast (Avalon Park) so we are definitely monitoring it and making our preps for a Cat 1-2 just to be on the safe side
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#1738 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:34 pm

This is just heartbreaking.


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#1739 Postby JGrin87 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:34 pm

ozonepete wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:What exactly is an anti-cyclone?


A high pressure area where winds blow in a clockwise direction around the center. A hurricane is a large cyclone where winds blow counterclockwise around the center. But up at around 200 - 300 mb or 30,000 feet and up, a well developed hurricane has an anti-cyclone (high pressure) are above it. That anti-cyclone takes all of that extremely fast uprushing air and blows it out away from the storm. So it's the exhaust system. Without it the hurricane would be like a fireplace where you covered over the chimney - the fire would die out.


Fixed "hurricane is large cyclone" lol


Is this (i.e. the high pressure area above the cyclone) the reason an eye develops or clears out all convection/clouds in the center?
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1740 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:35 pm

CronkPSU wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:I live in Florida near Clermont and am watching this as I'm expecting anything from 45mph wind to 115mph wind depending on path and potential intensification but am leaning towards the low end from the NHC path but as has been said things could change and likely will

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I will never say never after Charley but doubtful we see anything over high tropical force winds in the Orlando metro area...I am bit closer to the East Coast (Avalon Park) so we are definitely monitoring it and making our preps for a Cat 1-2 just to be on the safe side


yep, I have a lot of non perishable foods and lots of water and batteries just in case and if nothing happens we don't have to buy that stuff for a while
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