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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#461 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:26 pm

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cycloneye wrote:00z Best Track

AL, 95, 2013070800, , BEST, 0, 100N, 460W, 35, 1008, WV


Hmmm. That puts the center quite close to the developing convective concentration overhead. Also, it looks like this has started a jog to the west-northwest, which concurs with the NHC statement. That would bring it closer to the more northerly islands.

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What is your take on this possible WNW heading and it's future prospects. I am thinking the further south it stays will give it its best shot to survive. It is moving closer to the dry air and the shear will be bad above 15n when it gets to the Caribbean.


Well it really looks like the WNW heading isn't possible but rather actual right now. The NHC sees it that way and each best track position shows it. It isn't really moving closer to the dry air - the dry air is receding ahead of it. The shear is tricky - shear forecasts are notoriously bad so we can only wait and see, but the best chance of increased shear will be as it nears PR and DR. Given its current WNW heading and using the middle of the majority of the forecast tracks, it should move over the mid to northern islands of the Lesser Antilles on Tuesday / Wednesday. I personally don't like to make forecasts past that time because there is little forecast skill in the models that far out. But the gist of it is that this will be a strong TS or weak Cat 1 as it nears the islands and then it could right over or go just north or just south of PR and DR. If it goes over them, especially the great mountains of DR, it will get weakened quite a bit. Also, by that time there should be a trough developing over the eastern U.S. which could pull it north over or just east of Florida. All of that is just conjecture this far out in time. We just have to wait.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#462 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:28 pm

cycloneye wrote:ASCAT missed for the most part. Pass made just before 8 PM EDT.



Boy do I miss quikscat. :(
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#463 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:31 pm

floridasun78 wrote:ty for explaining this about 95l i never notice that other question do you this as open wave by PR?


No I don't at all. If shear develops and is going to get it that should come after or while it is near PR because it looks like the ULL that could shear it will be retrograding westward more before it slows down, so the shear could remain low until after this reaches the islands.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#464 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:32 pm

Its looking good right now, but its moving so fast the circulation may not be closed on the south side

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#465 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:35 pm

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Boy do I miss quikscat. :([/quote]
Last week, though, NASA announced that a new QuikSCAT-like instrument called ISS-RapidScat will be launched in 2014 on a SpaceX Dragon cargo spacecraft, and installed on the International Space Station (ISS.) In a clever reuse of hardware originally built to test parts of NASA's QuikScat satellite, the cost of the new instrument will be much lower than any previous scatterometer launched into orbit. http://www.democraticunderground.com/112735316 not sure how old this report is but SpaceX Dragon cargo spacecraft new rocket been use few time pass few years
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#466 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:36 pm

ozonepete wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:ty for explaining this about 95l i never notice that other question do you this as open wave by PR?


No I don't at all. If shear develops and is going to get it that should come after or while it is near PR because it looks like the ULL that could shear it will be retrograding westward more before it slows down, so the shear could remain low until after this reaches the islands.

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that ull by bahamas now moving over fl soon
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#467 Postby LaBreeze » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:38 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
ozonepete wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:ty for explaining this about 95l i never notice that other question do you this as open wave by PR?


No I don't at all. If shear develops and is going to get it that should come after or while it is near PR because it looks like the ULL that could shear it will be retrograding westward more before it slows down, so the shear could remain low until after this reaches the islands.

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that ull by bahamas now moving over fl soon

I'm just wondering - what effect would the ull moving over fl do to 95L? :?:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Models

#468 Postby LaBreeze » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:40 pm

Steve H. wrote:Pleeeassseeee. How do you even know there will be land interaction? Way too early to know. Models will be adjusting as 95L moves toward the west. May not even survive as it approaches the Caribbean, though I think it may. Could cruise right into the gulf if it keeps low latitude. :roll:


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Or right into Central America.
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#469 Postby madinina972 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:44 pm

Hi, I live in Martinique and Météo france here, is talking about no risk of storm on Tuesday, or tropical depression.
Only a forecast storm on Tuesday with rain.

Bulletin Météo France
We are green, no particular vigilance!
http://www.meteo.gp/donnees/bulletin/vi ... ilance.php
Tuesday : Sea state, beautiful... no comments ... :(

The one that says bad weather is sxm cyclone:
"The strong tropical wave is growing across the Atlantic ... it could reach the sky named tomorrow morning At 20h it was located about 1400 km from the Caribbean that will be impacted from. Tuesday by this phenomenon. A reliable path will be online soon. Freak monitor!

By cons, some sailors, fishermen and boat owners have been notified of a future bad time to put the boats in the shelter, by others.
Here, the sea was very warm this afternoon, high temperature, no wind, brief but heavy rains ...

Tonight flies go into the house, it announces the bad weather ... It's raining...
Tomorrow Monday, everyone works, we will go into the level of vigilance yellow, like last week, heavy rains in the regular season?

Thank you all for this forum for the information you post, for people living in the Caribbean.

Sorry for the translation, it must be hard to read, I use google translation ...
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#470 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:45 pm

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that ull by bahamas now moving over fl soon[/quote]
I'm just wondering - what effect would the ull moving over fl do to 95L? :?:[/quote]
that ull move west so wont affect 95l because it be far west part of gulf .The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products
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Re: Martinique

#471 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:48 pm

madinina972 wrote:Hi, I live in Martinique and Météo france here, is talking about no risk of storm on Tuesday, or tropical depression.
Only a forecast storm on Tuesday with rain.

Bulletin Météo France
We are green, no particular vigilance!
http://www.meteo.gp/donnees/bulletin/vi ... ilance.php
Tuesday : Sea state, beautiful... no comments ... :(

The one that says bad weather is sxm cyclone:
"The strong tropical wave is growing across the Atlantic ... it could reach the sky named tomorrow morning At 20h it was located about 1400 km from the Caribbean that will be impacted from. Tuesday by this phenomenon. A reliable path will be online soon. Freak monitor!

By cons, some sailors, fishermen and boat owners have been notified of a future bad time to put the boats in the shelter, by others.
Here, the sea was very warm this afternoon, high temperature, no wind, brief but heavy rains ...

Tonight flies go into the house, it announces the bad weather ... It's raining...
Tomorrow Monday, everyone works, we will go into the level of vigilance yellow, like last week, heavy rains in the regular season?

Thank you all for this forum for the information you post, for people living in the Caribbean.

Sorry for the translation, it must be hard to read, I use google translation ...


Welcome to storm2k fellow Caribbean member. We have a thread for the Caribbean and Central America where you can visit when you can and post any weather related things from that beautiful island. Link below.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#472 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:54 pm

:uarrow: yes welcome as well madinina972. Luis (cycloneye) has given you good advice there. Please look at all of these locations to keep informed, and feel free to ask us what you need to know. :)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#473 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:58 pm

New ASCAT pass just before 9 PM EDT caught the complete circulation. Not closed.

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#474 Postby xcool22 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:13 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion

#475 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:14 pm

Here we go!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion- It has been renumbered

#476 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:17 pm

TD.

AL, 03, 2013070800, , BEST, 0, 100N, 460W, 30, 1008, TD
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion- It has been renumbered

#477 Postby SapphireSea » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Wonder if they will go 03L TD or 03L Chantal. Probobly the former. It is maintaining convection well its probably safe to call that.

Looks like TD. A good call, best describes what what is seen.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion- It has been renumbered

#478 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:19 pm

You could argue that's closed, Luis. :) Look at the green lines. It may be elongated but it's pretty much closed off. The west winds on the southwestern quadrant seem to close it off. Though I admit it's close. I guess my point is given the data we have, it's pretty much closed off or will be in the next few hours. The developing convective ball should help consolidate the LLC.

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#479 Postby Jevo » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:21 pm

7/7 18z HWRF Track and Intensity

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Re: ATL: INVEST 95L - Discussion- It has been renumbered

#480 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:26 pm

ozonepete wrote:You could argue that's closed, Luis. :) Look at the green lines. It may be elongated but it's pretty much closed off. The west winds on the southwestern quadrant seem to close it off. Though I admit it's close. I guess my point is given the data we have, it's pretty much closed off or will be in the next few hours. The developing convective ball should help consolidate the LLC.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z174/philnyc_2007/vnl8gg_zps2ab57dae.gif


Thanks for the clarification. :) Well,we have the TD.
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