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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3461 Postby boca » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:56 pm

I think we are safe here in Florida because the whe system is moving north bypassing us to the east
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3462 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:56 pm

I relooked at it and heres why they went with a new entity, the area that is near Jamaica is in fact Chantal while the area on the north coast of Cuba split off and became a separate entity, does that seem to clarify things any or would that still cause confusion

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#3463 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:57 pm

if anything it might try to get going north of cuba ... there is some weak rotation noticeable of sat right side...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/e ... h-rgb.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3464 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:57 pm

boca wrote:I think we are safe here in Florida because the whe system is moving north bypassing us to the east


The NHC/TAFB images three posts up would disagree. Shows the system right off the SE FL coast in 24 hours, and basically rides up the coast without seeming to landfall.

Having said that, if this does reform, it will just be another rainy day for Florida, abit with higher gusts than what we are used to.
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#3465 Postby Janie2006 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:58 pm

Yah, see, I don't know about "safe" just yet because we don't really know about an LLC down there for the tropical models to focus on, if that makes any sense. Maybe that's old-fashioned Janie not keeping up with the advances in met models, but I'll be more comfortable when we've got something to focus on.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3466 Postby SFLcane » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:59 pm

boca wrote:I think we are safe here in Florida because the whe system is moving north bypassing us to the east


Um no that nhc position is just of SFL coast which may bring some squalls to area if this indeed become a TS again.
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#3467 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:59 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:if anything it might try to get going north of cuba ... there is some weak rotation noticeable of sat right side...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/e ... h-rgb.html


To me it looks like this system is already rebuilding in the Central Bahamas. Definite rotation there, looks like a new MLC:
http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/satellite ... mas-vis-24
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3468 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:01 pm

The 18zGFS seems to do more with the southern vortmax than the invested area, IMO that would be interesting

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#3469 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:05 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:if anything it might try to get going north of cuba ... there is some weak rotation noticeable of sat right side...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/e ... h-rgb.html


To me it looks like this system is already rebuilding in the Central Bahamas. Definite rotation there, looks like a new MLC:
http://climate.cod.edu/flanis/satellite ... mas-vis-24




in the low level clouds very broad turning..
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#3470 Postby tailgater » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:06 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:if anything it might try to get going north of cuba ... there is some weak rotation noticeable of sat right side...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/e ... h-rgb.html

AC have you checked this site out yet it's very good when a disturbance nears the CONUS. doesn't update very well though.

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/
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#3471 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:10 pm

There's no convergence nor any low or mid level vorticity there though

Aric Dunn wrote:if anything it might try to get going north of cuba ... there is some weak rotation noticeable of sat right side...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/e ... h-rgb.html
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#3472 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:12 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:There's no convergence nor any low or mid level vorticity there though

Aric Dunn wrote:if anything it might try to get going north of cuba ... there is some weak rotation noticeable of sat right side...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/e ... h-rgb.html


its exacly where all the 850mb vorticity is


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#3473 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:15 pm

Check your latitude numbers between the two images again...the greatest vorticity is south of there I believe

Aric Dunn wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:There's no convergence nor any low or mid level vorticity there though

Aric Dunn wrote:if anything it might try to get going north of cuba ... there is some weak rotation noticeable of sat right side...

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/e ... h-rgb.html


its exacly where all the 850mb vorticity is


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#3475 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:21 pm

'CaneFreak wrote:Check your latitude numbers between the two images again...the greatest vorticity is south of there I believe

Aric Dunn wrote:
'CaneFreak wrote:There's no convergence nor any low or mid level vorticity there though



its exacly where all the 850mb vorticity is


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notice the notch in the cuban coast... exact same location as maximum vorticity.


its very broad and weak rotation nothing at all well defined but if anything were to develop it would likely come from this area



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#3476 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:24 pm

Come on Aric...can't I rustle your feathers every once in a while? I was haggling with you over 50-100 miles... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Aric Dunn wrote:
notice the notch in the cuban coast... exact same location as maximum vorticity.


its very broad and weak rotation nothing at all well defined but if anything were to develop it would likely come from this area



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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3477 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:26 pm

If the 8 PM TWO says remnants of Chantal,then the title will change as Invest 96L - Remnants of Chantal.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3478 Postby galaxy401 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:29 pm

cycloneye wrote:If the 8 PM TWO says remnants of Chantal,then the title will change as Invest 96L - Remnants of Chantal.


What if they say "Associated with the remnants of Chantal"? Same thing?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#3479 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:32 pm

sunnyday wrote:So Fl local met just said that Chantal is about gone and that any remnants will miss Florida to the East. Does anyone here think So Fl is totally out of the woods? 8-) 8-)

This is not official info. See the NHC or NWS for accurate info.

Are you located in Palm Beach County or the Treasure Coast? Because the local meteorologist for this area is assuming it will miss SE FL to the east, and we can only expect enhanced afternoon t-storm activity now.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#3480 Postby 'CaneFreak » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:32 pm

There goes the good 'ole CMC with its bogus vortexing scheme again...I wouldn't trust that run...

Fego wrote:Then, at 168 hrs, 12Z CMC develops and sends something toward texas coast.

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