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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3061 Postby tailgater » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:47 pm

The lastest Blob is on the eastern edge of wave axis and expanding westward if that continues the pressure could drop and mid level circ. won't be working against wave axis. a long ways to go before a llc forms but it wouldn't be soo decoupled this time.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... short.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3062 Postby stormhunter7 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:03 am

Pretty sure that blob is from where the low surface coc would be... its doesn't appear to be closed, but i would think it wouldn't take long for that to happen at surface.. i know the convection is on the leading edge of the wave, but its where the the low should be and its firing on cue... i think the convection will continue for a few more hours (2-4hrs min), and the ULL to the west will continue to weaken and help the outflow improve. i would think the actually movement of the surface feature would begin to slow down some, not the quick 20mph movement we have seen to wnw.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3063 Postby tailgater » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:04 am

We'll get to watch it on long range radar for a little while
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... height=480
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3064 Postby stormhunter7 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:08 am

watching the convection over Haiti and Dominican Rep. the upper level winds are not that bad and actually think are going to help the 91L to the NE of Island. The outflow on 91L will be able to expand out to the SW and S and SE easy?
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#3065 Postby fci » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:11 am

Given the lack of other Atlantic systems at this time; it will be amusing to read the posts of people who are imagining that Dorian will resurrect. :roll:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3066 Postby tailgater » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:20 am

Almost as amusing as people that come back to a thread they are so sure has no chance of development. :P
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#3067 Postby funster » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:22 am

fci wrote:Given the lack of other Atlantic systems at this time; it will be amusing to read the posts of people who are imagining that Dorian will resurrect. :roll:


You must also be amused by the NHC which gives it a "MEDIUM CHANCE...30 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD."

Dorian is blobbing out again right now. Anything could happen. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... imated.gif
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#3068 Postby fci » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:27 am

Almost as amusing as people that come back to a thread they are so sure has no chance of development. :P


It's Hurricane Season; this board is a must see whenever there are Invests that are relevant to me. And I am very sure (not necessarily "so sure") that Dorian is history.

Of course,
"anything can happen"
as Funster notes......
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#3069 Postby tailgater » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:37 am

fci wrote:
Almost as amusing as people that come back to a thread they are so sure has no chance of development. :P


It's Hurricane Season; this board is a must see whenever there are Invests that are relevant to me. And I am very sure (not necessarily "so sure") that Dorian is history.

Of course,
"anything can happen"
as Funster notes......


Very sure so sure whatever, you just insulted me and others on here
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3070 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:48 am

0Z GFS and CMC show just a wave...go figure :D


http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal ... el%20plots
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3071 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:49 am

If people want to discuss the possibility of regeneration, that is the whole purpose of this thread. If you don't think it will regenerate, feel free to post that as well but don't knock the people for having another opinion. Get back to 91L
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#3072 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:51 am

It's been doing the same thing it's been doing the last 3 nights. What's interesting is how the statistical models still strengthen 91L to a TS and the globals show nothing at all.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3073 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:58 am

2 am TWO.

1. A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE...THE REMNANTS OF DORIAN...IS PRODUCING A
SMALL BUT CONCENTRATED AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ABOUT 150
MILES EAST OF THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE
NOT EXPECTED TO BE CONDUCIVE FOR REGENERATION TO OCCUR DURING THE
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS THE DISTURBANCE MOVES WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO
WESTWARD AT ABOUT 15 MPH. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...20
PERCENT
...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
SHOWERS AND GUSTY WINDS TO NEAR GALE FORCE IN SQUALLS ARE EXPECTED
TO STAY WELL TO THE NORTH OF HISPANIOLA TODAY...BUT COULD SPREAD
ACROSS THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS AND PORTIONS OF THE BAHAMAS BY
THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUE INTO WEDNESDAY. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE FOUND IN HIGH SEAS FORECASTS ISSUED BY THE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.
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#3074 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:03 am

Hurricane Alexis wrote:It's been doing the same thing it's been doing the last 3 nights. What's interesting is how the statistical models still strengthen 91L to a TS and the globals show nothing at all.


Have to go with the globals for now..however wind shear is starting to fall. Old map from earlier...before Mr Blob came to life....

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal ... el%20plots
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#3075 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:17 am

ROCK wrote:
Hurricane Alexis wrote:It's been doing the same thing it's been doing the last 3 nights. What's interesting is how the statistical models still strengthen 91L to a TS and the globals show nothing at all.


Have to go with the globals for now..however wind shear is starting to fall. Old map from earlier...before Mr Blob came to life....

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal ... el%20plots


Yea, the trend is for the shear continuing to drop. I wonder if it will affect Dorian's chances of redevelopment.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Models

#3076 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:19 am

The SHIP and LGEM models should be discounted due to there not being a closed low as those models assume theres a LLCC

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the calm before Tropical Storm Flossie 7-28-2013

#3077 Postby RandumbReasons » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:53 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqyy1BcSA5Y[/youtube]
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#3078 Postby fci » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:10 am

tailgater wrote:
fci wrote:
Almost as amusing as people that come back to a thread they are so sure has no chance of development. :P


It's Hurricane Season; this board is a must see whenever there are Invests that are relevant to me. And I am very sure (not necessarily "so sure") that Dorian is history.

Of course,
"anything can happen"
as Funster notes......


Very sure so sure whatever, you just insulted me and others on here


Not at all an insult.
I think you took a shot at me for continuing to follow the thread and I explained why.
Plus, I acknowledge what Funster said; "that anything can happen". I've seen strange things happen before that were unexpected.
I might have an opinion that the system is not going to regenerate due to the conditions and lack of model support; but I respect that "anything can happen" and others' opinions.
Absolutely!!!
Sorry Ivan if I beleaguered the discussion but I don't want miss-conceptions of my intentions. If I choose to insult someone; I will not post it as in the past it has resulted in penalties and wrist-slapping from Mods which I DO NOT enjoy! 8-)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3079 Postby GCANE » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:34 am

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Dorian Remnants - Discussion

#3080 Postby george_r_1961 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:19 am

Dry air is no longer an issue and shear is in the range of 10-20 knots. Not super conducive but unless my eyes are deceiving me it looks like shear will be dropping. My rule of thumb is to never ever write anything off down there that is still popping convection. Especially since its closer to land now. I do not like surprises.

I am still not 100 percent sure that this flare up is not nocturnally driven and I wont be sure until we have several hours of daylight down there. If it is still flaring up this afternoon then chances of redevelopment will go up a notch,
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