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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#161 Postby Rgv20 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:03 pm

tolakram wrote:The 850 wind chart from the euro does show an L off the LA coast at 120 hours. Not sure if that indicates minor development or not.


Nothing at the surface tho...Pressure at 1016mb.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#163 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:06 pm




yeah it was 975mb into STX last night.... :lol:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#164 Postby HouTXmetro » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:10 pm

That's a big shift for the HWRF
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#165 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:14 pm

I wonder if a stronger system would still follow what the Euro is showing the voriticity doing. I certainly don't want to see a strong storm in my area but we're running 7"-8" below normal since June 1 so a soaking system would be welcome here and especially Texas.
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#166 Postby PTrackerLA » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:20 pm

Not surprised by that swing in the HWRF. It has been one of the most unreliable models the past few seasons IMO.
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#167 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:23 pm

Here is where the 12Z ECMWF has 92L in 96 hours (approaching LA):

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#168 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:27 pm

12Z FIM just out. Similar to ECMWF but a little faster into LA:

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#169 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:43 pm

gatorcane wrote:Here is where the 12Z ECMWF has 92L in 96 hours (approaching LA):

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that doesnt even have a closed isobar...lol....maybe a split of energy...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#170 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:04 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#171 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:39 pm

18Z NAM...in the WGOM / BOC at 60hrs 1008mb....trof is lifting out...does send some moisture up into the trof..around LA..

http://magpara.ncep.noaa.gov/Imageanis.php
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#172 Postby caneman » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:43 pm

ROCK wrote:18Z NAM...in the WGOM / BOC at 60hrs 1008mb....trof is lifting out...does send some moisture up into the trof..around LA..

http://magpara.ncep.noaa.gov/Imageanis.php


It is of course the NAM though ;)
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#173 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:02 pm

Latest model plots:

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#174 Postby Rgv20 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:22 pm

12zECMWF Ensembles are still battling themselves with 92L path...Still so many possibilities.


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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#175 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:29 pm

wow on Monday.... :D I am curious..
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#176 Postby tailgater » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:29 pm

gatorcane wrote:Latest model plots:

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Nice to see they all agree. :cheesy: We need to save this to see if any get it right. I like the OCD5
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#177 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:29 pm

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Here is the Intensity Guidance. Most of these models show the intensity dropping off in the long-range and while intensity forecasts are extremely challenging, it still doesn't look like there will be ideal conditions in the GOM for 92L to really intensify. This could change, but right now it doesn't look like that is the case given the data at-hand which is good news for folks living along the Gulf.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#178 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:33 pm

the 12Z GFS ensembles have ran but yet to see a map with updates....
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#179 Postby Rgv20 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:33 pm

gatorcane wrote:The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

Here is the Intensity Guidance. Most of these models show the intensity dropping off in the long-range and while intensity forecasts are extremely challenging, it still doesn't look like there will be ideal conditions in the GOM for 92L to really intensify. This could change, but right now it doesn't look like that is the case given the data at-hand which is good news for folks living along the Gulf.

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If it goes to the Northern Gulf landfall would probably be in less than 72hrs..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#180 Postby chaser1 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:35 pm

The fact that the COC has yet to vertically develop, it will be a bit hard for the models to ideally latch on (though we're not talking about "too much" difference in general point of the system center. On the other hand, I'd have to go with a likely center being 50-100 miles east of where NHC is indicating at the moment. On an oft chance that this may be so, then this basically would mean that the system has a bit more time to consolodate over water, thus a more northward motion is what I'd assume to occur. Then, depending on timing, how much deepening occurs, and whether a "veer back" might occur approaching the N. Gulf coast in advance of a departing trough/building ridge...., that would seem to look like a Mobile, Al. to Pensacola, Fl. landfall (to me that is), could suddenly evolve into something more "Elena-like"....... interesting times!
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