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#81 Postby stormkite » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:52 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Well still, the conditions are favorable enough as it is also seen in the Prognostic Reasoning of TD 05W. Also, this storm looks impressive. It has that typical look of a TD which will intensify into a typhoon.


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Looks like there's shear and troughs ahead when it heads N may get ripped apart. Its only 25 knots unless
it cranks up wont take much to tame it.


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#82 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:55 pm

Its latitude could get lower as this system is moving west-southwesterly. We could see a record storm formation at an extremely low latitude.

According to the JMA, this will intensify and will be upgraded to tropical storm status by April 4, 8:00 AM Philippine Time at 2.7N which was lower than Bopha.
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#83 Postby euro6208 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:41 am

Woah 75 knot forecast? This could get stronger :eek:
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#84 Postby euro6208 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:44 am

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WTPQ31 PGUM 030311
TCPPQ1

TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05W ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TIYAN GU WP052014
200 PM CHST THU APR 3 2014

...TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05W FORMS SOUTHWEST OF CHUUK...

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------

NONE.

SUMMARY OF 100 PM CHST...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------

LOCATION...1.8N 147.4E

ABOUT 830 MILES SOUTHEAST OF YAP
ABOUT 970 MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF KOROR PALAU
ABOUT 500 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CHUUK AND
ABOUT 825 MILES SOUTH OF GUAM AND


MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...30 MPH
PRESENT MOVEMENT...WEST-SOUTHWEST OR 255 DEGREES AT 5 MPH

DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
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AT 100 PM CHST...0300 UTC...THE CENTER OF NEWLY FORMED TROPICAL
DEPRESSION 05W WAS LOCATED BY SATELLITE NEAR LATITUDE 1.8 DEGREES
NORTH AND LONGITUDE 147.4 DEGREES EAST.

TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05W IS MOVING WEST-SOUTHWEST AT 5 MPH. A GRADUAL
TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST AND AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED IS
FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE 30 MPH. TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05W IS
EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY STRENGTHEN DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

NEXT ADVISORY
-------------

THE NEXT SCHEDULED ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE AT 800 PM THIS EVENING.

$$

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#85 Postby stormkite » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:45 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Its latitude could get lower as this system is moving west-southwesterly. We could see a record storm formation at an extremely low latitude.

According to the JMA, this will intensify and will be upgraded to tropical storm status by April 4, 8:00 AM Philippine Time at 2.7N which was lower than Bopha.


Historically the odds are against a record formation at that latitude in this month Super Typhoon Bopha formed in November 25, 2012 and Super Typhoon Louise formed in November 18 1964.

Still think shear will be a big issue look at all the information xtyphooncyclonex models shear charts and the Pro Mets on here don't listen to the its going to be a Typhoon spelunkers every time a invest pops up in the wespac.



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#86 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:03 am

stormkite wrote:
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:Its latitude could get lower as this system is moving west-southwesterly. We could see a record storm formation at an extremely low latitude.

According to the JMA, this will intensify and will be upgraded to tropical storm status by April 4, 8:00 AM Philippine Time at 2.7N which was lower than Bopha.


Historically the odds are against a record formation at that latitude in this month Super Typhoon Bopha formed in November 25, 2012 and Super Typhoon Louise formed in November 18 1964.

Still think shear will be a big issue look at all the information xtyphooncyclonex models shear charts and the Pro Mets on here don't listen to the its going to be a Typhoon spelunkers every time a invest pops up in the wespac.



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As of now, the shear is rapidly decreasing. And just look how low the latitude of this system is...

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#87 Postby stormkite » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:56 am

05W
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05W 0:00UTC 24June2013
UW-CIMSS Experimental Vertical Shear TC Intensity Trend Estimates

Current Conditions (from JTWC) :
Latitude : 21:10:32 N
Longitude : 106:20:29 E
Intensity (MSLP) : N/A

Max Pot Int (MPI) : N/A
MPI differential (MSLP-MPI) : N/A

CIMSS Vertical Shear Magnitude : 14.5 m/s
Direction : 68.6 deg

TC Intensity Outlook not available due to the following reasons :
- Tropical cyclone is near or over land
- Tropical cyclone is below 25 knot threshold intensity
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#88 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:22 am

stormkite wrote:05W
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05W 0:00UTC 24June2013
UW-CIMSS Experimental Vertical Shear TC Intensity Trend Estimates

Current Conditions (from JTWC) :
Latitude : 21:10:32 N
Longitude : 106:20:29 E
Intensity (MSLP) : N/A

Max Pot Int (MPI) : N/A
MPI differential (MSLP-MPI) : N/A

CIMSS Vertical Shear Magnitude : 14.5 m/s
Direction : 68.6 deg

TC Intensity Outlook not available due to the following reasons :
- Tropical cyclone is near or over land
- Tropical cyclone is below 25 knot threshold intensity

What I said was it was decreasing. 21N, 106E is too far from the center which is at 2N, 148N. Glitched?

21N, 106E = 30 kts shear
2N, 148E = shear below 10 kts
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#89 Postby stormkite » Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:39 am

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Access modeling TS for the next 6 days and a curve hope it does go this way xtyphooncyclonex.
Its on the mark with what wxman57 posts.
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#90 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:10 am

stormkite wrote:http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/716/qly0.png

Access modeling TS for the next 6 days and a curve hope it does go this way xtyphooncyclonex.

Well, JTWC still with a 75 kt typhoon, NAVGEM with a strong TS, CMC with a typhoon. Conditions are very favorable right now for typhoon development.
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#91 Postby euro6208 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:29 am

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Continuing to get better organized with a solid band wrapping nicely...
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#92 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:11 am

JTWC now with 30 knots according to their Best Track. No change in latitude but is moving westerly.
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#93 Postby wxman57 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:35 am

None of the global models has it anywhere close to typhoon strength. Canadian has a low pressure of 992mb around day 6 then rising. GFS has a lowest pressure around there at days 6-8. Euro has peak winds 30-35 kts as it nears Mindanao. I still wouldn't go typhoon strength in a 5-day forecast.
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#94 Postby euro6208 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:41 am

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Heat content only gets more warmer in 24 hours...

Let's see what happens...
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#95 Postby euro6208 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:48 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:JTWC now with 30 knots according to their Best Track. No change in latitude but is moving westerly.


I still see 25 knots...

Anywhere here is the latest prog...

WDPN31 PGTW 031500
MSGID/GENADMIN/JOINT TYPHOON WRNCEN PEARL HARBOR HI//
SUBJ/PROGNOSTIC REASONING FOR TROPICAL DEPRESSION 05W (FIVE) WARNING
NR 03//
RMKS//
1. FOR METEOROLOGISTS.
2. 6 HOUR SUMMARY AND ANALYSIS.
TROPICAL DEPRESSION (TD) 05W, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 751 NM EAST-
SOUTHEAST OF KOROR, HAS TRACKED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT 07 KNOTS OVER
THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS AN
EXPOSED LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATION CENTER (LLCC) POSITIONED ON THE
NORTHEASTERN EDGE OF A SYMMETRIC AREA OF DEEP CONVECTION. A 031132Z
METOP-B IMAGE INDICATES SHALLOW CONVECTIVE BANDING WRAPPING INTO AN
ELONGATED LLCC WITH UPPER-LEVEL DIFFLUENT EASTERLY FLOW AND STRONG
LOW-LEVEL CONVERGENT FLOW FUELING THE DEEP CONVECTION DISPLACED OVER
THE WESTERN SEMI-CIRCLE. THE CURRENT POSITION IS BASED ON A 031132Z
ASCAT IMAGE AND AMBIGUITY ANALYSIS WITH GOOD CONFIDENCE. THE 03/06Z
WARNING POSITION WAS RE-POSITIONED ABOUT 40 NM NORTHEAST BASED ON
THE ASCAT IMAGERY. THE CURRENT INTENSITY REMAINS ASSESSED AT 25
KNOTS BASED ON THE RJTD DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATE OF 25 KNOTS AND
THE ASCAT IMAGE SHOWING ONLY 20 TO 25 KNOTS. UPPER-LEVEL ANALYSIS
INDICATES A MARGINALLY FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT CHARACTERIZED
BY LOW (5-10 KNOTS) VERTICAL WIND SHEAR (VWS), BROAD DIVERGENCE
ALOFT AND WARM SST (29 TO 30 CELSIUS). ADDITIONALLY, TD 05W IS
FORECAST TO TRACK OVER HIGH VALUES OF OCEAN HEAT CONTENT (OHC)
THROUGH TAU 72. TD 05W IS CURRENTLY TRACKING ALONG THE SOUTHERN
PERIPHERY OF THE DEEP-LAYERED SUBTROPICAL RIDGE (STR) TO THE NORTH.
3. FORECAST REASONING.
A. NO CHANGE TO FORECAST PHILOSOPHY SINCE THE PREVIOUS PROGNOSTIC
REASONING MESSAGE.
B. TD 05W IS FORECAST TO TRACK WEST-NORTHWESTWARD WHILE GRADUALLY
INTENSIFYING THROUGH TAU 72 (RATE OF 10 KNOTS PER DAY). ALTHOUGH SST
AND OHC VALUES REMAIN CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT, THE SYSTEM WILL
REMAIN SOUTH OF THE UPPER-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AXIS UNDER
DIFFLUENT EASTERLY FLOW WITH BROAD DIFFLUENCE AND WILL LACK A STRONG
OUTFLOW MECHANISM. THEREFORE, TD 05W IS FORECAST TO INTENSIFY AT A
SLOWER THAN CLIMATOLOGICAL RATE. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF COAMPS-TC,
WHICH TRACKS THE SYSTEM WESTWARD, AVAILABLE DYNAMIC GUIDANCE REMAINS
IN FAIR AGREEMENT. DESPITE THE GENERAL AGREEMENT ON TRACK DIRECTION,
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT TRACK SPEED ISSUES AS WELL AS TWO MODELS, GFS
AND GFDN, TRUNCATING THE FORECAST AT TAU 48. IN GENERAL, THE MODELS
ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE INTENSITY FORECAST. NAVGEM AND COAMPS-TC
SHOW A FLATTER WESTWARD TRACK AND WEAK SYSTEM.
C. IN THE EXTENDED TAUS, TD 05W IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TRACKING
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD, EVENTUALLY TRACKING OVER OR NEAR THE ISLAND OF
PALAU AND INTO THE EAST PHILIPPINE SEA. VWS IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE
SLIGHTLY, WHICH MAY ACT TO SLOW FURTHER DEVELOPMENT, THEREFORE, THE
FORECAST CALLS FOR A LESS-THAN-CLIMATOLOGICAL RATE OF
INTENSIFICATION THROUGH TAU 120. THE JTWC INTENSITY FORECAST REMAINS
CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS WARNINGS AND IS HEDGED HIGHER THAN THE
STATISTICAL-DYNAMICAL GUIDANCE, WHICH PEAKS THE INTENSITY AT 55 TO
65 KNOTS. DYNAMIC GUIDANCE IS IN FAIR AGREEMENT THUS THE JTWC
FORECAST TRACK IS POSITIONED CLOSE TO THE MULTI-MODEL CONSENSUS. DUE
TO THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF GUIDANCE AND INITIAL POSITIONING
UNCERTAINTY, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN THE JTWC FORECAST TRACK.//
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#96 Postby euro6208 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:16 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
stormkite wrote:http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/716/qly0.png

Access modeling TS for the next 6 days and a curve hope it does go this way xtyphooncyclonex.

Well, JTWC still with a 75 kt typhoon, NAVGEM with a strong TS, CMC with a typhoon. Conditions are very favorable right now for typhoon development.



Well if this doesn't become a typhoon then the next one will which will help el nino but i do believe this will become our 2nd typhoon in a few days...

We'll see...
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#97 Postby mrbagyo » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:40 am

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JMA:
TROPICAL DEPRESSION 1004 HPA
AT 01.6N 146.0E CAROLINES MOVING WEST SLOWLY.
POSITION POOR.
MAX WINDS 30 KNOTS NEAR CENTER.
EXPECTED MAX WINDS 35 KNOTS NEAR CENTER FOR NEXT 24 HOURS.
FORECAST POSITION FOR 041200UTC AT 02.9N 143.6E WITH 120 MILES RADIUS
OF 70 PERCENT PROBABILITY CIRCLE.

TXPQ22 KNES 031530
TCSWNP

A. 05W (NONAME)

B. 03/1432Z

C. 1.7N

D. 146.0E

E. FIVE/MTSAT


F. T2.0/2.0/D1.0/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/SSMIS

H. REMARKS...WITH SLIGHTLY MORE THAT 3/10 BANDING SYSTEM HAS DEVELOPED
TO A DT=2.0. MET AND PAT ALSO 2.0. WITH LLCC ON SE EDGE OF CONVECTION
AND HAS NOT MOVED MUCH OVER PAST 18HRS. FT IS BASED ON DT.


I. ADDL POSITIONS

03/0938Z 1.9N 145.8E SSMIS


...SWANSON
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#98 Postby euro6208 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:58 am

WOW!

They should just rename the WPAC to EQUATOR BASIN...

I am just in AWE of all these storms forming so close to equator...

something you don't see regularly in other basins...This area is very special in the dynamics of tropical cyclones...
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#99 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:08 pm

It looks good for something so close to the equator and in April. :lol:
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Re: WPAC: 05W - Tropical Depression

#100 Postby cycloneye » Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:26 pm

21:00 UTC warning:

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