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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#741 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:35 pm

Blown Away wrote:Do possible El Niño conditions make conditions more favorable for hurricanes to impact Hawaii??


Yes, all notable Hawaii storms sans Hiki were in El Nino years.
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#742 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:45 pm

we're not close to el niño, however
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#743 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:47 pm

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Either maintaining really well or attempting to strengthen.
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#744 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:48 pm

Alyono wrote:we're not close to el niño, however


We arguably have had near-El Nino-like conditions for the past few months, but that is a topic for another thread.
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#745 Postby Cyclenall » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:59 pm

Epsilon_Fan wrote:Looks like a Central Pacific Epsilon... :D

That's what Iselle reminds me the most of, Hurricane Epsilon. Its really cool looking again and that water vapor loop showing it going from slop to this was incredible, never seen that before in 9 years of watching. The inner core is vigorous and was untouched so when shear decreased convection just magically-like formed right around it again.
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#746 Postby AFWeather » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:23 pm

Don't see a track change with the 18Z GFS. Wonder what recon data (if any) was ingested. Interested in what the 00Z shows us. Don't expect a track change for the next update (5PM Hawaiian).
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#747 Postby tallywx » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:27 pm

AFWeather wrote:Don't see a track change with the 18Z GFS. Wonder what recon data (if any) was ingested. Interested in what the 00Z shows us. Don't expect a track change for the next update (5PM Hawaiian).


It's almost nowcast time.
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#748 Postby AFWeather » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:33 pm

tallywx wrote:
AFWeather wrote:Don't see a track change with the 18Z GFS. Wonder what recon data (if any) was ingested. Interested in what the 00Z shows us. Don't expect a track change for the next update (5PM Hawaiian).


It's almost nowcast time.


Yep, especially for the big island. Still interested in the slight possibility of it jogging north and impacting Oahu differently. Short term track should only change very slightly from now on.
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#749 Postby tallywx » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:40 pm

AFWeather wrote:
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AFWeather wrote:Don't see a track change with the 18Z GFS. Wonder what recon data (if any) was ingested. Interested in what the 00Z shows us. Don't expect a track change for the next update (5PM Hawaiian).


It's almost nowcast time.


Yep, especially for the big island. Still interested in the slight possibility of it jogging north and impacting Oahu differently. Short term track should only change very slightly from now on.


The mountains of the Big Island could throw any track thereafter off, at least temporarily. We've seen unusual things happen vis Hispanola with circulations disrupted and spit out (unexpectedly) either north or south of that island. Who knows what Iselle will do around Mauna Loa/Kea.
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#750 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:42 pm

tallywx wrote:
AFWeather wrote:
tallywx wrote:
It's almost nowcast time.


Yep, especially for the big island. Still interested in the slight possibility of it jogging north and impacting Oahu differently. Short term track should only change very slightly from now on.


The mountains of the Big Island could throw any track thereafter off, at least temporarily. We've seen unusual things happen vis Hispanola with circulations disrupted and spit out (unexpectedly) either north or south of that island. Who knows what Iselle will do around Mauna Loa/Kea.


For sure, though I'd lean towards being spit out to the south rather than the north.
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#751 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:44 pm

the eye is not as well defined now as it was earlier. Not sure if this is merely cirrus from the convection, though
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#752 Postby WeatherGuesser » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:49 pm

tallywx wrote:The mountains of the Big Island could throw any track thereafter off, at least temporarily. We've seen unusual things happen vis Hispanola with circulations disrupted and spit out (unexpectedly) either north or south of that island.


How do the two compare as far as land mass area and elevation?
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#753 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:54 pm

Big Island MUCH higher mountains than Hispañiola
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#754 Postby tallywx » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:04 pm

Alyono wrote:the eye is not as well defined now as it was earlier. Not sure if this is merely cirrus from the convection, though


This is also around D-Min, isn't it?
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#755 Postby Alyono » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:12 pm

this is around the D min, but that usually doesnt matter for a well formed cane
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#756 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:23 pm

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Eyewall seems to be contracting, filled with cirrus clouds, and a small eye in the middle. Don't know what to make of it as we haven't had a half decent microwave pass in a while.
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#757 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:28 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Image

Eyewall seems to be contracting, filled with cirrus clouds, and a small eye in the middle. Don't know what to make of it as we haven't had a half decent microwave pass in a while.


I almost think it's an ERC.
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#758 Postby Riptide » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:45 pm

Alyono wrote:we're not close to el niño, however

Looks toasty where Iselle is and in the general vicinity of Hawaii.

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#759 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:57 pm

Pressure was pretty steady. If anything it was holding its own.
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Re: CPAC: ISELLE - Hurricane

#760 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:02 pm

18z HWRF along with GFS shifted slightly to the north, forecast near 75kt at landfall

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