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#721 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:57 am

:uarrow: Those coordinates are just around 20 miles offshore, I agree it should move inland by early afternoon at the latest.
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#722 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:04 am

Well we can see how quickly an area of vorticity can ramp up in the Western Caribbean. This invest went from basically not much to something in about 24 hours, pretty much ramped up as soon as conditions became favorable enough. Had land not been in the way it could have been much more in my opinion :eek:
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#723 Postby Yellow Evan » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:05 am

Well, congrats Hanna on proving me wrong.
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#724 Postby HurricaneBelle » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:06 am

And to think Bones was brought out on this. We need a new meme with another DeForest Kelley catchphrase for this storm: "I'm a doctor, not a meteorologist".
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#725 Postby ozonepete » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:07 am

terstorm1012 wrote:well this was unexpected! I'd all but written it off.


You can go back and see what some of us said yesterday evening. While I understood NHC's concern that it was close to going inland you could clearly see it had a really "hot" environment for intensifying and had enough time due to the very slow motion
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#726 Postby cycloneye » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:14 am

I think is the first time that our friend Bones after proclaiming something that ends,turns into a storm. :) That is why never say never in the tropics. Kudos to those members who sticked fully with it. :)
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#727 Postby caneman » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:17 am

Still waiting for stormlover2013 to come eat some crow ;)
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#728 Postby tolakram » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:17 am

I posted my sat loop and went back to work, not realizing it had just been upgraded. :)

Proof that it did not go poof.
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#729 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:25 am

One thing to watch for is whether some kind of vorticity can make it into the Gulf of Honduras. I noticed the last couple runs of the GFS show some kind of vorticity heading WNW just north of the coast of Honduras

Latest IR loop shows some convection may be starting to try and head that way as Hanna interacts with land:

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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#730 Postby abajan » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:26 am

caneman wrote:Still waiting for stormlover2013 to come eat some crow ;)
I think the overwhelming majority of us will be dining on crow. A most unexpected turn of events.

I certainly hope everyone in Honduras and Nicaragua are paying close attention to the progress of Hanna because I don't want to see a repeat of their experience with Mitch in relation to rainfall and the consequent mudslides. Incidentally, Puerto Lempira in eastern Nicaragua has already got some heavy rain from this.

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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#731 Postby sunnyday » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:59 am

I said, "Fool me once; fool me twice." But the NHC only gave it 10% last night. How did they miss this? There have been so many inaccuracies this year with some of the models, and now this. I don't feel very comfortable about the prediction of storms.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#732 Postby Gustywind » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:04 am

cycloneye wrote:I think is the first time that our friend Bones after proclaiming something that ends,turns into a storm. :) That is why never say never in the tropics.

Good point :), and ... this year tropics are full of surprises.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#733 Postby Sanibel » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:22 am

Never ignore black IR.


Gatorcane and I will be operating the crow concession. I recommend the "poof crow". It's deep fried crow in a blend of spices in batter. The "Give it up crow" is a specially cooked crow prepared in a special hot air cooking process. "Crow Technicale" is a new dish made from meteorological cooking theory. "Boned Crow"... LOL!
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#734 Postby ozonepete » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:24 am

Gustywind wrote:
cycloneye wrote:I think is the first time that our friend Bones after proclaiming something that ends,turns into a storm. :) That is why never say never in the tropics.

Good point :), and ... this year tropics are full of surprises.


And we have a month left. Could still be more weird surprises so we have to stay vigilant.
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#735 Postby Zanthe » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:51 am

...poof?

Doesn't look like Hanna is on the NHC track to me. Looks more to be moving Northwestward, or are my eyes just playing tricks on me?
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#736 Postby weatherwindow » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:02 am

Zanthe wrote:...poof?

Doesn't look like Hanna is on the NHC track to me. Looks more to be moving Northwestward, or are my eyes just playing tricks on me?


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... oater.html

The convection is certainly redeveloping offshore to the WNW of Cape Gracias a Dios....will have to see if the circulation is dragged a bit with it????
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#737 Postby blp » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:27 am

Glad to see this upgraded. The NHC should classify regardless of its future potential.
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#738 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:36 am

I'm thinking re-genesis will be pushed back to 0000Z last night looking at it. Also if the ASCAT supports 35 kt, given the small size and deep convection, I would think it was stronger. I'd go with 45 kt right now personally.

I had practically written it off too...
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#739 Postby Hammy » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:39 am

Go to bed, 10%, check first time the next day, and now it's a tropical storm. I have a feeling this has probably been one for about 12 hours as the ASCAT showed a good rotation late last night. The Euro/GFS later today should be interesting to see now that this is classified as I don't think a closed low was being initialized before.
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Re: ATL: HANNA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#740 Postby wxman57 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:45 am

It's clear that by mistake the NHC left off one of the zeros when they said 10% last night. ;-) Already inland and weakening just after the first advisory.
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