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#221 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:31 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:I'd say it is time for a Special Advisory? Then again, it is about to leave CPHC territory so is it worth it?


Normally I'd say yes, but I think the CPHC is more focused on Iselle.
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#222 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:32 pm

ADT is T5.7 right now. Based on all that data, I would go with 105 kt for an intensity.
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#223 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:34 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:I'd say it is time for a Special Advisory? Then again, it is about to leave CPHC territory so is it worth it?


Normally I'd say yes, but I think the CPHC is more focused on Iselle.


It makes me think, when was the last time the CPHC was this busy? Two hurricanes at once in the Central Pacific has to be a rarity. Given that they have to double as NWS Honolulu, I wonder if the NHC should take over the CPAC as well? It seems like a lot of workload, even though it does provide local expertise.
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#224 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:36 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
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CrazyC83 wrote:I'd say it is time for a Special Advisory? Then again, it is about to leave CPHC territory so is it worth it?


Normally I'd say yes, but I think the CPHC is more focused on Iselle.


It makes me think, when was the last time the CPHC was this busy? Two hurricanes at once in the Central Pacific has to be a rarity. Given that they have to double as NWS Honolulu, I wonder if the NHC should take over the CPAC as well? It seems like a lot of workload, even though it does provide local expertise.


Last time there were two hurricanes at once was in 1993.

CPHC needs a bigger staff or needs to be taken over by the NHC.
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#225 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:36 pm

JTWC maintains the CPHC initial intensity, correct? While JMA analyzes differently, even though they are official?
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Re: CPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#226 Postby supercane4867 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:42 pm

Major Hurricane Genevieve

EP, 07, 2014080700, , BEST, 0, 137N, 1791W, 100, 965, HU, 64, NEQ, 40, 20, 20, 30, 1006, 220, 40, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, GENEVIEVE, D,
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#227 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:43 pm

Here comes major #4

EP, 07, 2014080700, , BEST, 0, 137N, 1791W, 100, 965, HU, 34, NEQ, 120, 90, 80, 110, 1006, 220, 40, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, GENEVIEVE, D,
EP, 07, 2014080700, , BEST, 0, 137N, 1791W, 100, 965, HU, 50, NEQ, 60, 40, 40, 50, 1006, 220, 40, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, GENEVIEVE, D,
EP, 07, 2014080700, , BEST, 0, 137N, 1791W, 100, 965, HU, 64, NEQ, 40, 20, 20, 30, 1006, 220, 40, 0, 0, E, 0, , 0, 0, GENEVIEVE, D,
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#228 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:44 pm

JUST inside the region too. It looks like it will enter the WPAC as a Cat 3, maybe a Cat 4 if it RI's more in the next few hours. T5.5 on the JMA scale is 90 kt (10-min)? (Although a lot can change by 0600Z)
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#229 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:47 pm

First CPHC AOR major since Neki 09.

It's been 2 years since the ATL has produced a major. Think about that.
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#230 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:48 pm

For the record, this thread will be renamed Typhoon Genevieveand moved into the WPac forum when JMA issues their first advisory.
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#231 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:32 pm

I'm seeing an OW eye surrounded by white. T6.5 Constraint issues keep us a bit lower but this has gone through a remarkable rate of intensification the last few hours.

TXPN21 KNES 070013
TCSCNP

A. 07E (GENEVIEVE)

B. 06/2332Z

C. 13.7N

D. 178.8W

E. ONE/MTSAT

F. T5.5/5.5/D2.5/24HRS

G. IR/EIR/VIS/GMI/SSMIS/AMSU

H. REMARKS...WELL DEFINED EYE IS NOW DG EMBEDDED .58 DEGREES INTO BLACK
FOR EYE NO. OF 5.5. SURROUNDING RING IS ALSO BLACK FOR NO EYE ADJ. FOR DT
OF 5.5. MET USING RAPID DEVELOPMENT TREND IS NOT EVEN CLOSE AT 4.5...PT
IS LIMITED TO 5.0 PER RULES OF BEING NO GREATER THAN .5 OVER MET. FT OF
5.5 IS BASED ON DT... JUST WITHIN DEVELOPMENT RULES OF 2.5 IN 24HRS.

I. ADDL POSITIONS

06/1736Z 13.1N 177.6W GMI
06/2017Z 13.4N 178.3W SSMIS
06/2058Z 13.5N 178.4W AMSU


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#232 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:40 pm

Yeah, this is probably just below or at Category 4 intensity already. What a bout of intensification.
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#233 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:43 pm

Cat 5 doesn't seem out of the question.
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#234 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:19 pm

It might be a Super Typhoon by 1200Z at this rate. I'd say 110 kt for the advisory time.
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#235 Postby dexterlabio » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:40 pm

Is it true that JMA will assign the name 'Fengshen' on Genevieve? it's odd because they didn't assign new names last year to Pewa and Unala, as well as Ioke in 2006..
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#236 Postby RL3AO » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:42 pm

As far as I know they will keep Genevieve as it was assigned by a RSMC.
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#237 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:46 pm

It should remain Genevieve in the WPAC.
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#238 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:50 pm

Hurricane GENEVIEVE Advisory Number 40
Issued at 500 PM HST WED AUG 06 2014
SUMMARY OF 500 PM HST...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
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Location: 14.1N 179.7W
ABOUT 970 MI...1560 KM ESE OF WAKE ISLAND
ABOUT 985 MI...1585 KM S OF MIDWAY ISLAND
Maximum sustained winds: 135 MPH...215 KM/H
Present movement: NW or 305 degrees AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
Minimum central pressure: 960 MB...28.35 INCHES
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#239 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:54 pm

dexterlabio wrote:Is it true that JMA will assign the name 'Fengshen' on Genevieve? it's odd because they didn't assign new names last year to Pewa and Unala, as well as Ioke in 2006..


No.
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Re: CPAC: GENEVIEVE - Hurricane

#240 Postby euro6208 » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:57 pm

Wow a major hurricane already? This wasn't expected.
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