ATL: ISAAC - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8281 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:55 am

tolakram wrote:Here's that 1 minute flash floater: http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~rabin/goes14/loop_srso.html

Convection fires over water, then dies out as it hits land, comes around, and does it again. Hopefully the center will move inland soon.


I don't know if it is dying as much as it is getting wrapped up to his NE. He does not want to go away politely.
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#8282 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:56 am

With half of the center still over water, any weakening is going to be painfully slow, though it is worth noting the southern side isn't looking quite as convectivly active as it was maybe 2-3hrs ago.

Flooding is going to be a huge worry...
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8283 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:57 am

45 frame loop, no flash required. Large images, beware: http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/1min/inde ... height=900
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8284 Postby Ken711 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:02 am

NHC Update:

8:00 AM CDT Wed Aug 29
Location: 29.5°N 90.5°W
Moving: NW at 6 mph
Min pressure: 970 mb
Max sustained: 80 mph
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#8285 Postby Elizabeth » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:06 am

thatwhichisnt wrote:Braithwait Ferry store roof:

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Where did you get that picture??? Did you take that? Is that NOW???
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#8286 Postby Weather Watcher » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:07 am

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BigB0882 wrote:NHC says still going NW. Radar must be deceiving.


Short term motion certainly seems via satellite/radar to be a slow west-northwest movement. Almost a crawl, really. Not good.


Agreed, I see a NW movement on last few radar frames.

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/se ... X-N0Q-1-24

IMO it looks like more wnw slow movement
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8287 Postby thatwhichisnt » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:07 am

No, did not take that! That is not me. It is from that braithwait ferry store. Levee around there has breached. 40-50 people on their roofs waiting to be rescued.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8288 Postby weunice » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:10 am

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KFLY - Lafayette - posted this on Facebook :) -- "Winds are getting stronger near Milton!"
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8289 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:11 am

This saved loop captures last nights convection blowup well.

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#8290 Postby wxwatcher1999 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:14 am

Looks to me like Isaac is about to be in the water again...any comments?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8291 Postby thatwhichisnt » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:15 am

braithwaite again:

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#8292 Postby mutley » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:16 am

wxwatcher1999 wrote:Looks to me like Isaac is about to be in the water again...any comments?


Judging by radar, it looks to me like it hasn't moved at all in about the last 1 1/2 hours.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8293 Postby Ken711 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:17 am

tolakram wrote:This saved loop captures last nights convection blowup well.


Anyone seen the latest on the steering winds map that might finally allow Isaac to move in a more Northern track?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8294 Postby eyeofthetiger » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:18 am

Really feel for those residents trapped south/southeast of NOLA and if that pic above is any indication, must be getting downright frightening. Dang guys - hope you are hanging in there.

Will be upping the donation to Red Cross today.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8295 Postby windnrain » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:21 am

My parents are in Larose (google map it).

Surprisingly the flood gates and levees system is one of the best in the state there. Still, they told me its getting rough.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8296 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:21 am

Ken711 wrote:
tolakram wrote:This saved loop captures last nights convection blowup well.


Anyone seen the latest on the steering winds map that might finally allow Isaac to move in a more Northern track?



The midwest ridge says no go for right now.

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#8297 Postby tolakram » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:24 am

wxwatcher1999 wrote:Looks to me like Isaac is about to be in the water again...any comments?


Hasn't moved that I can see.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8298 Postby Houstonia » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:24 am

My heart goes out to the folks in Louisiana this morning.

This in from Jeff Lindner:

Hurricane Isaac pounding SE LA and MS with storm surge, strong winds, and flooding rainfall.

Flash Flood Emergency for Plaquemines Parish (east bank). A levee on the E side of the MS River is being overtopped and water levels have rapidly risen to the rooftop of homes from Braithwaite to White Ditch.

Very strong winds currently affecting metro New Orleans with frequent gust to 70mph or greater.

Discussion:

Based on radar the center of hurricane Isaac is on the coast over extreme SE LA just SE of Houma near Terrebonne Bay and is moving WNW at maybe 4 mph…and this may be generous. With the center moving more parallel to the coast than inland, the hurricane has not weakened much overnight and is only expected to slowly weaken given the marshy flat land areas along the southern LA coast. A very slow WNW motion is expected today into tonight has high pressure over the central US builds north and then NE of Isaac blocking its northward motion and trapping the system in weak steering currents. After 36 hours, this high pressure cell should move far enough ESE to allow Isaac to turn toward the N and move toward NW LA and AR.

Based on this thinking Isaac will continue to pound the LA and MS coast for the next 24-30 hours with strong winds, heavy rains, and storm surge. Heavy flooding rainfall and strong winds will spread well inland along the track of Isaac and will begin to affect Baton Rouge later this morning.

Winds:

Some locations on the SE LA coast have now had sustained TS force winds for over 12 hours and another 12-16 hours of strong winds is likely. 300,000 SE LA residents are now without power and expect this will continue to rise as Isaac moves slowly inland. The constant battering of 60-80mph winds for hours and hours will result in somewhat greater damage than usual from a category 1 hurricane especially as the ground saturates allowing trees to up root and topple. 700am winds:

N.O. Airport: 44g67

N.O. Lakefront: 51g64

Slidell: 28g49

Boothville: 43g59

Belle Chase: 36g62

Baton Rouge: 41g58

Gulfport: 35g46

Houma: 39g62

Biloxi: 29g44

Bayou LaBranch: 46g63

Waveland, MS: 46g62

Storm Surge:

Forecasted storm surge values are verifying in the impact area currently.

Listed below are the 630am water levels:

Shell Beach: 10.16ft

Rigolets: 6.40 ft

West End: 5.40 ft

New Canal: 5.04 ft

NO Lakefront: 4.35 ft

Waveland, MS: 7.79ft

As winds turn toward the SE this morning on the east side of SE LA, the storm surge that has piled into Lake Borgne will begin to shift toward the north coast of Lake Borgne and SW MS. Additionally surge will be increasing on the W and N sides of Lake Pontchartrain. Large and dangerous battering waves will accompany the storm surge. Given the large size of the wind field, the storm surge will be slow to recede.

Rainfall:

Radar suggesting 5-7 inches of rain has fallen over SE LA overnight and with the very slow forward motion an additional 10-15 inches of rainfall can be expected. Some total could be as high as 20 inches along and to the right of where the center tracks. Significant potentially life threatening inland freshwater flooding is likely.

Local Impacts:

With the slight westward track overnight, this may bring TS force winds closer to the TX/LA border this afternoon. Expect winds to increase into the 15-25mph range east of I-45 this afternoon with gust to near 30mph. A few feeder bands may rotate westward and impact our area tonight into Thursday as Isaac moves slowly into SC Louisiana.
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#8299 Postby BigB0882 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:28 am

The NHC has a graphic with the center circled twice to show where it was and where it is now and it is clearly moving, very slowly, slightly north and west. It isn't moving south and it isn't going due west. When a storm is moving this slowly it is very hard to gauge motion from short radar shots.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Hurricane - Discussion

#8300 Postby Ken711 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:30 am

SoupBone wrote:
Ken711 wrote:
tolakram wrote:This saved loop captures last nights convection blowup well.


Anyone seen the latest on the steering winds map that might finally allow Isaac to move in a more Northern track?



The midwest ridge says no go for right now.


Thanks for posting that!
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