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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#61 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:40 pm

Shear will not be a big problem.

SHEAR (KT) 7 10 8 4 2 11 1 2 13 14 15 14 13


ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/stext/12062 ... _ships.txt
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#62 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:40 pm

For what they're worth (their -2 cents), the BAM's favor a western path.
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#63 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:40 pm

What are the chances that a front comes in and this pulls an Agnes?
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#64 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:41 pm

I could use some bands.....ALL HAIL CMC :lol:



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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#65 Postby ROCK » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:42 pm

yeah BAMMS are a very -2 cents...but they do provide hints on steering layers....shallow, Medium and Deep...anyway I always found them sort of helpful...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#66 Postby bamajammer4eva » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:First Tropical model run:

[code]
WHXX01 KWBC 211828
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1828 UTC THU JUN 21 2012

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
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ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL962012) 20120621 1800 UTC

]

So no hurricane- just a storm then. This is better than global as far as intensity?

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#67 Postby bamajammer4eva » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:43 pm

Sorry double post
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#68 Postby Rgv20 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:45 pm

Honestly the UKMET was the one that until now has not change its mind on this being a Western Gulf threat.....If I'm not mistaken tho UKMET has a biased toward overdoing ridges.
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#69 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:45 pm

Any1 know if they will run GFDL?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#70 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:45 pm

bamajammer4eva wrote:
cycloneye wrote:First Tropical model run:

[code]
WHXX01 KWBC 211828
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1828 UTC THU JUN 21 2012

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL962012) 20120621 1800 UTC

]

So no hurricane- just a storm then. This is better than global as far as intensity?

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Is only the first run,and for sure with each run changes will occur. The models for intensity are HWRF and GFDL that will be out after 6 PM EDT.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#71 Postby latitude_20 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:47 pm

Not a lot of surface convergence to speak of right now - but upper divergence looks good.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#72 Postby tolakram » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:47 pm

Inland over Texas

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#73 Postby ROCK » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:47 pm

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#74 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:48 pm

Just too many variables. still no defined center and until that happens we just wont know. if it consolidates farther east today where all the convection is than the models are initializing about 200 off. that changes a lot
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#75 Postby Rgv20 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:49 pm

Judging by the ECMWF it looks like a pretty good size hurricane....Anybody agree?
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#76 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:50 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Just too many variables. still no defined center and until that happens we just wont know. if it consolidates farther east today where all the convection is than the models are initializing about 200 off. that changes a lot


How quickly it gets organized I think is more important than where. It has a time period of 2-3 days if it's going to make an eastern/northern gulf landfall.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#77 Postby ROCK » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:52 pm

cycloneye wrote:Shear will not be a big problem.

SHEAR (KT) 7 10 8 4 2 11 1 2 13 14 15 14 13


ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/stext/12062 ... _ships.txt



oh man that is not good....
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#78 Postby Dave » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:53 pm

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#79 Postby Rgv20 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:53 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:Just too many variables. still no defined center and until that happens we just wont know. if it consolidates farther east today where all the convection is than the models are initializing about 200 off. that changes a lot


How quickly it gets organized I think is more important than where. It has a time period of 2-3 days if it's going to make an eastern/northern gulf landfall.


Looking as this disturbance is Monsoonal in origin is going to take a while to get going. I suspect that in 3 days is going to be a depression maybe a lower end TS.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#80 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:53 pm

A reminder that we have the 96L main discussion thread to talk all about the system,radars,sat images etc.

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