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#461 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:27 pm

Developing some strong convection near the center now ...

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#462 Postby JamesCaneTracker » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:30 pm

sandyb wrote:I know its to early to tell but everyone keeps talking about Florida what about NC anyones thoughts on what you think of it getting into our coast or close?


1 Model does show a South Carolina Landfall in Charleston County... and then another model does show a North Carolina Landfall.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#463 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:31 pm

sandyb wrote:I know its to early to tell but everyone keeps talking about Florida what about NC anyones thoughts on what you think of it getting into our coast or close?


I'd say the strongest probability is still that it's only a threat to Bermuda. That said, it's certainly not out of the realm of possibility that if the slow-down the models depict starting day 3 lasts long enough, some ridging could build over it and push it in your direction. Certainly enough of a possibility that your area and the coast north of you should continue to monitor this system.


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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#464 Postby pgoss11 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:31 pm

JamesCaneTracker wrote:
sandyb wrote:I know its to early to tell but everyone keeps talking about Florida what about NC anyones thoughts on what you think of it getting into our coast or close?


1 Model does show a South Carolina Landfall in Charleston County... and then another model does show a North Carolina Landfall.

Do you haver a link to those models?
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#465 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:35 pm

x-y-no wrote:Developing some strong convection near the center now ...

http://i.imgur.com/2DnXP.jpg


that center you're mentioning is the MLC, the surface low if you look at the visible is at the NE end of the convection, this is not vertically stacked

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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#466 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:40 pm

only a matter of time now...the weakness it there

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/d ... oom=&time=
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#467 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:42 pm

ok guys and ladys we need see one how strong she is and how high rebuild to see if she will be fish or pass near Bermuda remember i say other system MODELS WILL STIFT as their more data put in them best thing to do see what NHC say staytune
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#468 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:44 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
x-y-no wrote:Developing some strong convection near the center now ...

http://i.imgur.com/2DnXP.jpg


that center you're mentioning is the MLC, the surface low if you look at the visible is at the NE end of the convection, this is not vertically stacked

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Maybe your eyes are better than mine. I make the LLC at about 16.6N 50.3W. I'd call that "near" the strong convection. I'll agree it's NE of the strongest convection, but not right on the edge of the blob.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#469 Postby Anthysteg00 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:51 pm

Leslie has done an impressive job combating the dry air since she formed. Perhaps out first major seeing as how Kirk has recently began to weaken a bit?

A nice fish storm to end this harsh month of August, we'll take that. We used to call these things "September Storms" down here where I live, so we'll see how going into this next month things will go...
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#470 Postby Frank2 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:59 pm

When you say the forecast track are similar to Andrew I assume you mean that at this point Andrew was also forecast to re-curve in a similar manner or are you saying the forecast currently for leslie has her doing what Andrew ultimately did? Thanks!


Yes, that's correct - Andrew was originally thought to head northeast with a trough once it became sheared, but the trough lifted out fairly quickly and Andrew became trapped under a strong ridge that moved off the US East Coast...

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#471 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:00 pm

I was a bit too far north. Best track has her at 16.4N 50.3W, 55kt, 999mb.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#472 Postby Anthysteg00 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:04 pm

Frank2 wrote:
When you say the forecast track are similar to Andrew I assume you mean that at this point Andrew was also forecast to re-curve in a similar manner or are you saying the forecast currently for leslie has her doing what Andrew ultimately did? Thanks!


Yes, that's correct - Andrew was originally thought to head northeast with a trough once it became sheared, but the trough lifted out fairly quickly and Andrew became trapped under a strong ridge that moved off the US East Coast...

Frank Frank (lol)


Seems a logical scenario, IMO. But I suspect given that we are much closer to September the troughs will likely be a bit too strong. Leslie has gaining a significant amount of latitude recently, I suspected dry air would keep it in check but Leslie currently has an intimidating core of convection and without wind shear abundant she will likely bully the dry air.

Are there any other comparisons to Andrew that exist with the current synoptic pattern that we haven't seen? I realize GFS and EURO show the storm getting trapped ...
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#473 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:05 pm

Looks like the center is being sucked into the convection, could this be a start of pretty good intensification

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#474 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:17 pm

x-y-no wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
x-y-no wrote:Developing some strong convection near the center now ...

http://i.imgur.com/2DnXP.jpg


that center you're mentioning is the MLC, the surface low if you look at the visible is at the NE end of the convection, this is not vertically stacked

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Maybe your eyes are better than mine. I make the LLC at about 16.6N 50.3W. I'd call that "near" the strong convection. I'll agree it's NE of the strongest convection, but not right on the edge of the blob.


After watching this some more, I think x-y-no is right. The LLC looks to have consolidated under the convection now. The other, smaller LLC to the northeast is dissipating. Some shear is still going on, but it seems to be a little lighter and is turning from northeasterly to easterly which has less affect on a westward moving TC anyway. Looks to be ramping up.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

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#476 Postby otowntiger » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:27 pm


that center you're mentioning is the MLC, the surface low if you look at the visible is at the NE end of the convection, this is not vertically stacked

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Maybe your eyes are better than mine. I make the LLC at about 16.6N 50.3W. I'd call that "near" the strong convection. I'll agree it's NE of the strongest convection, but not right on the edge of the blob.


After watching this some more, I think x-y-no is right. The LLC looks to have consolidated under the convection now. The other, smaller LLC to the northeast is dissipating. Some shear is still going on, but it seems to be a little lighter and is turning from northeasterly to easterly which has less affect on a westward moving TC anyway. Looks to be ramping up.


and turning more northwesterly, no?
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#477 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:31 pm

otowntiger wrote:
ozonepete wrote:After watching this some more, I think x-y-no is right. The LLC looks to have consolidated under the convection now. The other, smaller LLC to the northeast is dissipating. Some shear is still going on, but it seems to be a little lighter and is turning from northeasterly to easterly which has less affect on a westward moving TC anyway. Looks to be ramping up.


and turning more northwesterly, no?


Actually, no, I don't see that. Appears still west or west-northwest.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#478 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:32 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:Looks like the center is being sucked into the convection, could this be a start of pretty good intensification

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So we have a consensus now pretty much. :wink:
Let's see how much it can kick up.
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#479 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:35 pm

otowntiger wrote:
ozonepete wrote:and turning more northwesterly, no?


Actually, no, I don't see that. Appears still west or west-northwest.


I think there was an illusion of a northwest turn because the LLC has expanded and also gotten elongated a little from SW to NE.
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Re: ATL: LESLIE - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#480 Postby ozonepete » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:38 pm

Okay, otown, I see it now. It's a little early to be sure, but yes, I do think the track may have shifted a little more northwesterly now.
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