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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3261 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:48 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:This caught my eye...since when is there a warm front on a tropical cyclone????



The warm front is not connected to Debby's circulation.
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#3262 Postby rockyman » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:49 pm

18z GFDL:

HOUR: .0 LONG: -85.91 LAT: 28.29 MIN PRESS (hPa): 990.37 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 42.52
HOUR: 6.0 LONG: -86.11 LAT: 28.46 MIN PRESS (hPa): 989.61 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 43.27
HOUR: 12.0 LONG: -86.39 LAT: 28.62 MIN PRESS (hPa): 990.89 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 41.39
HOUR: 18.0 LONG: -86.57 LAT: 29.02 MIN PRESS (hPa): 988.43 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 51.33
HOUR: 24.0 LONG: -86.82 LAT: 29.00 MIN PRESS (hPa): 987.67 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 46.79
HOUR: 30.0 LONG: -86.99 LAT: 28.70 MIN PRESS (hPa): 988.32 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 46.25
HOUR: 36.0 LONG: -87.29 LAT: 28.71 MIN PRESS (hPa): 990.03 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 40.53
HOUR: 42.0 LONG: -87.91 LAT: 28.75 MIN PRESS (hPa): 991.14 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 40.65
HOUR: 48.0 LONG: -88.31 LAT: 28.68 MIN PRESS (hPa): 992.36 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 37.30
HOUR: 54.0 LONG: -88.76 LAT: 28.65 MIN PRESS (hPa): 992.07 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 39.08
HOUR: 60.0 LONG: -89.15 LAT: 28.84 MIN PRESS (hPa): 991.50 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 40.82
HOUR: 66.0 LONG: -89.23 LAT: 29.17 MIN PRESS (hPa): 991.08 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 41.29
HOUR: 72.0 LONG: -89.14 LAT: 29.60 MIN PRESS (hPa): 990.10 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 51.00
HOUR: 78.0 LONG: -88.98 LAT: 29.96 MIN PRESS (hPa): 989.73 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 45.23
HOUR: 84.0 LONG: -89.07 LAT: 30.32 MIN PRESS (hPa): 991.12 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 43.04
HOUR: 90.0 LONG: -89.04 LAT: 30.57 MIN PRESS (hPa): 994.02 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 44.30
HOUR: 96.0 LONG: -88.86 LAT: 30.74 MIN PRESS (hPa): 994.04 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 48.02
HOUR:102.0 LONG: -88.62 LAT: 30.57 MIN PRESS (hPa): 986.26 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 61.81
HOUR:108.0 LONG: -88.23 LAT: 30.85 MIN PRESS (hPa): 989.86 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 50.02
HOUR:114.0 LONG: -87.85 LAT: 31.11 MIN PRESS (hPa): 992.53 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 48.77
HOUR:120.0 LONG: -87.35 LAT: 31.52 MIN PRESS (hPa): 993.91 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 42.00
HOUR:126.0 LONG: -86.87 LAT: 31.52 MIN PRESS (hPa): 990.26 MAX SURF WIND (KNOTS): 41.86

Makes it to the Chandeleur Sound (south of Mississippi Gulf Coast) before turning back to the north and east
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#3263 Postby Annie Oakley » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:50 pm

000
URNT15 KNHC 242345
AF302 0304A DEBBY HDOB 10 20120624
233830 2829N 08542W 8426 01434 9926 +187 +181 121015 015 /// /// 03
233900 2830N 08541W 8433 01428 9927 +186 +179 119016 016 /// /// 03
233930 2832N 08539W 8426 01434 9927 +187 +180 118018 019 /// /// 03
234000 2833N 08538W 8431 01431 9929 +180 +180 121021 022 000 002 05
234030 2834N 08537W 8429 01434 9933 +180 +180 120022 023 /// /// 05
234100 2835N 08535W 8424 01438 9933 +180 +180 119024 025 001 005 05
234130 2836N 08534W 8429 01436 9931 +186 +180 126025 026 000 004 03
234200 2837N 08533W 8432 01436 9934 +188 +176 128026 027 001 004 03
234230 2839N 08532W 8428 01441 9936 +185 +176 123024 025 /// /// 03
234300 2840N 08531W 8429 01439 9936 +185 +176 125024 024 000 005 03
234330 2841N 08529W 8429 01441 9938 +185 +179 129024 025 001 003 00
234400 2842N 08528W 8430 01440 9940 +185 +175 129024 024 003 002 03
234430 2844N 08527W 8432 01442 9941 +186 +175 123022 023 000 002 00
234500 2845N 08526W 8432 01441 9943 +185 +175 122023 023 001 002 00
234530 2846N 08524W 8429 01446 9945 +185 +174 126025 026 001 003 03
234600 2847N 08523W 8425 01450 9946 +182 +178 130027 027 001 003 03
234630 2849N 08522W 8433 01443 9947 +183 +177 130028 028 004 004 00
234700 2850N 08521W 8426 01450 9948 +185 +176 129028 028 007 001 00
234730 2851N 08519W 8432 01447 9948 +185 +176 129027 028 007 002 03
234800 2852N 08518W 8426 01452 9949 +185 +174 130026 027 009 003 00
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3264 Postby wkwally » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:51 pm

ozonepete wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:This caught my eye...since when is there a warm front on a tropical cyclone????



The warm front is not connected to Debby's circulation.

might not be connected to Debby's circulation but would it cause more wind shear for the tornado factor
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#3265 Postby artist » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:52 pm

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
748 PM EDT SUN JUN 24 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL POLK COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 815 PM EDT

* AT 741 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
TORNADO 6 MILES SOUTHEAST OF FORT MEADE...OR 13 MILES NORTHEAST OF
WAUCHULA...MOVING NORTH AT 35 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
FORT MEADE...HOMELAND.
ALTURAS.
LAKE WALES MUNICIPAL AIRPORT...BARTOW.
BARTOW MUNICIPAL AIRPORT...LAKE WALES.
WAHNETA.
CYPRESS GARDENS...WINTER HAVEN.
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#3266 Postby Annie Oakley » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:54 pm

UZNT13 KNHC 242345
XXAA 75008 99283 70860 08186 99991 27013 02009 00579 ///// /////
92611 23405 36004 85350 20005 05503 88999 77999
31313 09608 82332
61616 AF302 0304A DEBBY OB 05
62626 EYE SPL 2826N08597W 2334 MBL WND 00505 AEV 20802 DLM WND 01
504 991843 WL150 01006 083 REL 2826N08597W 233227 SPG 2826N08597W
233432 =
XXBB 75008 99283 70860 08186 00991 27013 11850 20005 22843 190//
21212 00991 02009 11983 01005 22855 04003 33843 06503
31313 09608 82332
61616 AF302 0304A DEBBY OB 05
62626 EYE SPL 2826N08597W 2334 MBL WND 00505 AEV 20802 DLM WND 01
504 991843 WL150 01006 083 REL 2826N08597W 233227 SPG 2826N08597W
233432 =
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#3267 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:54 pm

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#3268 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:55 pm

Per dropsonde, pressure is 991mb.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Advisories

#3269 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:55 pm

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM DEBBY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 6A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042012
700 PM CDT SUN JUN 24 2012

...DEBBY REMAINS STATIONARY...HEAVY SQUALLS AFFECTING THE
COASTS OF THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND WEST-CENTRAL FLORIDA...


SUMMARY OF 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.3N 86.0W
ABOUT 115 MI...185 KM SSW OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
ABOUT 195 MI...315 KM ESE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...60 MPH...95 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...STATIONARY
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.23 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY...

NONE.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* THE MISSISSIPPI-ALABAMA BORDER EASTWARD TO THE SUWANNEE RIVER
FLORIDA

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* SOUTH OF THE SUWANNEE RIVER TO ENGLEWOOD FLORIDA

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...IN THIS CASE LATER TODAY.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA IN THE UNITED
STATES...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
FORECAST OFFICE.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
AT 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM DEBBY WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 28.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 86.0 WEST. DEBBY HAS
BEEN STATIONARY DURING THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS. LITTLE MOVEMENT IS
EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...BUT THIS FORECAST REMAINS
UNCERTAIN DUE TO WEAK STEERING CURRENTS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 60 MPH...95 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME GRADUAL STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT
48 HOURS.

TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 200 MILES...325 KM
FROM THE CENTER. SUSTAINED TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS HAVE BEEN
REPORTED AT SEVERAL LOCATIONS ALONG THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE WEST OF
APALACHICOLA DURING THE PAST HOUR. WIND GUSTS TO TROPICAL STORM
FORCE HAVE BEEN REPORTED ALONG THE ALABAMA COAST AND ALSO ALONG THE
WEST-CENTRAL FLORIDA COAST.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RESERVE RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 990 MB...29.23 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND...TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY NEAR OR OVER PORTIONS
OF THE NORTHEAST GULF COAST AND ARE EXPECTED TO REACH THE REMAINDER
OF THE WARNING AREA BY TONIGHT...MAKING OUTSIDE PREPARATIONS
DIFFICULT OR DANGEROUS.

STORM SURGE...THE COMBINATION OF A STORM SURGE AND THE TIDE WILL
CAUSE NORMALLY DRY AREAS NEAR THE COAST TO BE FLOODED BY RISING
WATERS. THE WATER COULD REACH THE FOLLOWING DEPTHS ABOVE GROUND AT
THE TIMES OF HIGH TIDE OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS...

APALACHEE BAY TO WACCASASSA BAY...4 TO 6 FT
FLORIDA WEST COAST SOUTH OF WACCASASSA BAY...2 TO 4 FT
COASTAL MISSISSIPPI EASTWARD TO APALACHEE BAY...2 TO 4 FT
SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA...1 TO 3 FT

THE DEEPEST WATER WILL OCCUR ALONG THE IMMEDIATE COAST IN AREAS OF
ONSHORE FLOW. SURGE-RELATED FLOODING DEPENDS ON THE RELATIVE
TIMING OF THE SURGE AND THE TIDAL CYCLE...AND CAN VARY GREATLY OVER
SHORT DISTANCES. FOR INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE
SEE PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICE.

RAINFALL...DEBBY IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OF
10 TO 15 INCHES OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND NORTHERN FLORIDA...
WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 25 INCHES POSSIBLE. SURROUNDING
THIS AREA...TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE EXPECTED
OVER CENTRAL FLORIDA AND SOUTHEAST GEORGIA...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM
AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES POSSIBLE. GIVEN THE RECENT HEAVY RAINFALL AND
WET SOIL CONDITIONS...THESE ADDITIONAL AMOUNTS WILL EXACERBATE THE
FLASH FLOOD THREAT ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN GULF
COAST.

TOTAL RAIN ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES OVER COASTAL ALABAMA...
MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA AND SOUTH FLORIDA...WITH
ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 6 INCHES POSSIBLE.

TORNADOES...A FEW TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE OVER WEST AND CENTRAL
FLORIDA PENINSULA TONIGHT.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...1000 PM CDT.

$$
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#3270 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:55 pm

Recon found new low pressure of 990, confirmed by NHC in intermediate advisory.

EDIT:
CrazyC83 wrote:Per dropsonde, pressure is 991mb.

Apparently there's a rule, you take 1mb off for every 10mph that is reported with the dropsonde, which would result in 990.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3271 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:56 pm

BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM DEBBY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 6A
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL042012
700 PM CDT SUN JUN 24 2012

...DEBBY REMAINS STATIONARY...HEAVY SQUALLS AFFECTING THE
COASTS OF THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE AND WEST-CENTRAL FLORIDA...


SUMMARY OF 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...28.3N 86.0W
ABOUT 115 MI...185 KM SSW OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
ABOUT 195 MI...315 KM ESE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...60 MPH...95 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...STATIONARY
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.23 INCHES
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#3272 Postby wkwally » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:57 pm

What would the higest pressure be for a hurricane
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#3273 Postby Dave » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:58 pm

TORNADO WATCH #0423 OUTLINE EFFECTIVE 745 PM TO 5:00 AM EDT MONDAY MORNING

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#3274 Postby brunota2003 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:00 pm

Well...it started off with the right pressure (990 just confirmed by recon), but only 42 knot max winds?
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#3275 Postby artist » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:00 pm

TORNADO WARNING
FLC057-081-250015-
/O.NEW.KTBW.TO.W.0026.120624T2339Z-120625T0015Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAMPA BAY AREA - RUSKIN FL
739 PM EDT SUN JUN 24 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN RUSKIN HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
CENTRAL HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN FLORIDA.
NORTHERN MANATEE COUNTY IN FLORIDA.

* UNTIL 815 PM EDT

* AT 735 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
TORNADO 10 MILES SOUTH OF WIMAUMA...OR 18 MILES EAST OF PALMETTO...
MOVING NORTH AT 45 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
WIMAUMA...SUN CITY CENTER.
LITHIA SPRINGS STATE PARK...BLOOMINGDALE.
BRANDON.
VALRICO...SEFFNER.
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#3276 Postby Annie Oakley » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:01 pm

000
URNT15 KNHC 242355
AF302 0304A DEBBY HDOB 11 20120624
234830 2853N 08517W 8429 01450 9949 +185 +173 130026 026 011 003 00
234900 2855N 08516W 8432 01447 9950 +186 +173 129028 028 018 002 00
234930 2856N 08515W 8433 01450 9955 +180 +180 126029 030 021 003 01
235000 2857N 08513W 8425 01458 9955 +180 +180 127030 031 022 003 01
235030 2858N 08512W 8432 01450 9956 +180 +180 129029 030 021 002 01
235100 2858N 08512W 8432 01450 9958 +180 +180 136031 032 018 004 01
235130 2901N 08509W 8432 01453 9960 +180 +180 138032 032 018 004 01
235200 2902N 08508W 8425 01460 9961 +180 +180 145035 037 022 003 01
235230 2903N 08507W 8434 01454 9965 +180 +180 144037 038 025 003 01
235300 2904N 08505W 8428 01462 9969 +180 +180 141039 040 024 004 01
235330 2905N 08504W 8429 01462 9971 +170 +170 139040 041 027 003 01
235400 2906N 08503W 8433 01460 9974 +170 +170 136038 039 026 004 01
235430 2907N 08501W 8429 01466 9976 +170 +170 138039 040 024 004 01
235500 2908N 08500W 8434 01461 9978 +170 +170 138038 039 022 003 01
235530 2910N 08458W 8430 01468 9980 +170 +170 137039 040 021 003 01
235600 2911N 08457W 8429 01470 9982 +160 +160 137041 042 021 004 01
235630 2912N 08456W 8428 01472 9987 +160 +160 137043 044 023 003 01
235700 2913N 08454W 8429 01474 9987 +160 +160 137043 044 022 004 01
235730 2914N 08453W 8430 01473 9990 +160 +160 137044 045 024 003 01
235800 2915N 08452W 8430 01475 9994 +160 +160 139047 049 024 004 01
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Recon

#3277 Postby mobilebay » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:02 pm

Well it sees she hasn't moved a lick this afternoon
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Advisories

#3278 Postby artist » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:03 pm

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#3279 Postby HurricaneBill » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:03 pm

wkwally wrote:What would the higest pressure be for a hurricane


Some hurricanes have had pressures that never went below 1000mb. However, it's very rare.

Examples:
Hurricane Bob 1985
Hurricane Frances 1986
Hurricane Danny 2003
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3280 Postby ozonepete » Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:04 pm

wkwally wrote:
ozonepete wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:This caught my eye...since when is there a warm front on a tropical cyclone????



The warm front is not connected to Debby's circulation.

might not be connected to Debby's circulation but would it cause more wind shear for the tornado factor


Absolutely.
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