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#1561 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:07 pm

KWT wrote:CMC looks pretty close to the UKMO that shows a sharper right turn, which gives the system more time over water and probably better than a long drawn out track over Cuba or on the coast of Cuba like the 12z GFS.


yeah and similar to the gfdl.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1562 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:08 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:12z EURO around 1:45p (central)


Yes and I am waiting for it like wild coyote looking for dinner!!
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#1563 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:10 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
KWT wrote:CMC looks pretty close to the UKMO that shows a sharper right turn, which gives the system more time over water and probably better than a long drawn out track over Cuba or on the coast of Cuba like the 12z GFS.


yeah and similar to the gfdl.


Yet another swing then from the looks of things, obviously the models are slightly stronger with the developing weakness than the previous runs.

That sort of track would give the system more than enough time to sort out its inner core, or to develop one in the first place.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1564 Postby Stormlover2012 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:11 pm

Cmc and the Nogaps all made a shift west
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1565 Postby Jevo » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:13 pm

Stormlover2012 wrote:Cmc and the Nogaps all made a shift west


NOGAPS was the far East outlier.. so instead of shifting.. I think a better term would correcting..
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1566 Postby wxman76 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:13 pm

pending the Euro this afternoon I still like a blend of the GFS and Euro. The models with the farthest right solutions have come west today while the GFS shifted only slightly west from yesterday. I think it has the right idea though. I will admit if the Euro doesn't change from the last 2 runs significantly I will be hard pressed to go against it. But the GFS has been consistant too so a blend is probably the best way to go for now.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1567 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:25 pm

Jevo wrote:
Stormlover2012 wrote:Cmc and the Nogaps all made a shift west


NOGAPS was the far East outlier.. so instead of shifting.. I think a better term would correcting..


Yep both models have come closer to the consensus, though worth noting they are both still to the east of most of the runs that I've seen recently.
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#1568 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:27 pm

meriland23 wrote:What are your guyses opinions (so far) you with Euro, or GFS more?



I think the EURO is looking very good and the GFS is out to lunch. I looked up forecast errors and came to find Isaac is .7 South of where NHC saw it to be two days ago as well as yesterday. If you assume Isaac will always stay about a degree South of track and shreded by shear and dry air I think it will follow EURO's logic, IMO.

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#1569 Postby Weatherboy1 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:38 pm

So we now have the CMC and the NOGAPS converging on a SE FL landfall, or very close to it, and the GFS moving a bit farther E and indicating a landfall on the southern to SW tip of FL and riding pretty much up the state. The ONLY major outlier now is the Euro, so that makes the next run pretty interesting to see. Will all the majors eventually converge on the euro solution of a move much farther into the Gulf? Or will it converge on what all the major models are showing?

I personally think scenario number two is more likely, given that MOST model support is now showing a S FL landfall. But I'm open-minded since we're still talking about 5 days out. Still couldn't hurt to put some extra gas in the car and pick up a case of water at this stage ... because as us Floridians know, things could get pretty crazy by tomorrow afternoon if models are still showing a FL hit at that time!

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1570 Postby Stormlover2012 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:41 pm

Gfs isn't more east
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#1571 Postby adam0983 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:44 pm

It is east from the morning run of the GFS.
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#1572 Postby uhvjaguars22 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:45 pm

I thought it has been shifting west not east
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1573 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:46 pm

Stormlover2012 wrote:Gfs isn't more east


It is east of the 06z run, not by a huge amount but small details with this sort of track have huge difference does the line.
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#1574 Postby HurricaneBrain » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:47 pm

Yesterday the GFS was scraping the east coast of Florida, now it forecasts Isaac to head west of the Florida peninsula. Looks like a west shift to me. Euro has been keeping it's ground...
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#1575 Postby SeminoleWind » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:49 pm

HurricaneBrain wrote:Yesterday the GFS was scraping the east coast of Florida, now it forecasts Isaac to head west of the Florida peninsula. Looks like a west shift to me. Euro has been keeping it's ground...


Euro has been the west shifter since yesterday 2AM
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1576 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:52 pm

here comes the euro.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1577 Postby blp » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:54 pm

This feels like a heavyweight fight between the GFS and EURO. All the suspense, with people asking for the time it will run. This is what makes the tropics interesting, who will win out.
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#1578 Postby Nimbus » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:55 pm

So the GFS has shifted a little closer to the Florida coastline with the UKMET. Both models cross Hispaniola and spend a fair amount of time over warm SST's north of Cuba.

I don't think they are modeling for a major hurricane in the gulf, not that they should but a stronger storm would have a pronounced effect on the ridge evolution.

Probably why the earlier GFS was tracking further left...
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#1579 Postby adam0983 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:56 pm

Great Point exactly.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1580 Postby blp » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:56 pm

Off Topic: what happened to HURAKAN. He used to post a lot here.
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