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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L
Here's a 1km visible image with surface, ship, and buoy observations overlaid onto the image:


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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L
With storms now firing very close to the LLC I expect it will become our first TD or TS of 2012.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L
I should note that the surface center is displaced to the east of deep convection, which suggest and you can see is the light shear. so its not perfect, but the curved banding is visible in all areas of low, and the data shows we have a very small low. I'd say the current movement is to the wsw at a very slow pace.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L
Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert
All the pieces are there now for NHC to decide what to do. The TAFB classification, the TCFA,the ASCAT pass etc.
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT//
WTNT21 KNGU 191800Z
RMKS/1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE
WITHIN A 100 NM RADIUS OF 32.4N 77.7W WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF A NUMBERED TROPICAL
CYCLONE WARNING AT THIS TIME. WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED
TO BE 30 TO 35 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT 191555Z INDICATES THAT A
CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 32.4N 77.7W. THE SYSTEM
DISPLAYS A WESTWARD DRIFT LESS THAN 05 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS: SATELLITE AND RADAR IMAGERY INDICATE THAT THE AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 120 MILES SOUTHEAST OF MYRTLE BEACH
SOUTH CAROLINA HAS BEGUN TO ACQUIRE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS. MODEL
GUIDANCE DEPICTS THE AREA OF INTEREST DRIFTING WESTWARD WITH
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS PRESISTING NEAR THE CIRCULATION CENTER.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY
201800Z.//
9312051912 324N 777W 30
All the pieces are there now for NHC to decide what to do. The TAFB classification, the TCFA,the ASCAT pass etc.
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT//
WTNT21 KNGU 191800Z
RMKS/1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE
WITHIN A 100 NM RADIUS OF 32.4N 77.7W WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF A NUMBERED TROPICAL
CYCLONE WARNING AT THIS TIME. WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED
TO BE 30 TO 35 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT 191555Z INDICATES THAT A
CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 32.4N 77.7W. THE SYSTEM
DISPLAYS A WESTWARD DRIFT LESS THAN 05 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS: SATELLITE AND RADAR IMAGERY INDICATE THAT THE AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 120 MILES SOUTHEAST OF MYRTLE BEACH
SOUTH CAROLINA HAS BEGUN TO ACQUIRE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS. MODEL
GUIDANCE DEPICTS THE AREA OF INTEREST DRIFTING WESTWARD WITH
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS PRESISTING NEAR THE CIRCULATION CENTER.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY
201800Z.//
9312051912 324N 777W 30
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L
cycloneye wrote:TAFB at T2.0
AL 93 201205191745 DVTS 3210N 7780W SAB EG 1515 ///// T DT=2.5 BO CBND MET=1.5 PT=1.5 FTBO CON
AL 93 201205191745 DVTS 3220N 7770W TAFB SS 2020 ///// T DT 2.0 BO CURVED BAND
This is a good example of how the Dvorak T numbers can underestimate the intensity of a cyclone:
19/1745 UTC 32.1N 77.8W T1.5/1.5 93L -- Atlantic
T1.5 means it was run as tropical, and the satellite estimates for strength are at 25 knots...whereas real world observations have shown winds of at least 29.1 knots (8-minute observing period), or if the ship reports are accurate, winds of at least 30 to 35 knots are present.
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brunota2003 wrote:Just because there is a renumber does not mean there will be advisories. I've seen them do renumbers, just to decide in the end to cancel it. So nothing is official until an actual advisory is issued!
Once or twice. Realistically a renumber means advisories.
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brunota2003 wrote:Just because there is a renumber does not mean there will be advisories. I've seen them do renumbers, just to decide in the end to cancel it. So nothing is official until an actual advisory is issued!
Bingo my friend to that!!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L
Looks like 93L is shooting out a ton of outflow boundaries to the S over the past couple of hours... I wonder if the convection will collapse soon.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L
I dont really see outflow... maybe the blow off from the small CDO, that's sheared and fighting dry air on the east side.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L:RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren
Could this be the first storm of the season?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L:RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren
did they just renumber 93L?
EGIN
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NOTIFY=ATRP
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INVEST, AL, L, , , , , 01, 2012, DB, O, 2012051912, 9999999999, , , , , , WARNING, 1, AL012012
AL, 01, 2012051812, , BEST, 0, 334N, 764W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051818, , BEST, 0, 333N, 766W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051900, , BEST, 0, 331N, 768W, 25, 1010, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051906, , BEST, 0, 329N, 771W, 30, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051912, , BEST, 0, 325N, 773W, 35, 1009, LO, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 30, 30, 1012, 50, 40, 40, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 01, 2012051918, , BEST, 0, 323N, 776W, 40, 1007, LO, 34, NEQ, 40, 0, 30, 40, 1012, 60, 30, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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INVEST, AL, L, , , , , 01, 2012, DB, O, 2012051912, 9999999999, , , , , , WARNING, 1, AL012012
AL, 01, 2012051812, , BEST, 0, 334N, 764W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051818, , BEST, 0, 333N, 766W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051900, , BEST, 0, 331N, 768W, 25, 1010, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051906, , BEST, 0, 329N, 771W, 30, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051912, , BEST, 0, 325N, 773W, 35, 1009, LO, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 30, 30, 1012, 50, 40, 40, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 01, 2012051918, , BEST, 0, 323N, 776W, 40, 1007, LO, 34, NEQ, 40, 0, 30, 40, 1012, 60, 30, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L: RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren
New Best Track with Tropical Storm Alberto
AL, 01, 2012051918, , BEST, 0, 323N, 776W, 40, 1007, TS
http://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inve ... 012.invest
AL, 01, 2012051918, , BEST, 0, 323N, 776W, 40, 1007, TS
http://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inve ... 012.invest
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