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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#141 Postby brunota2003 » Sat May 19, 2012 1:56 pm

Here's a 1km visible image with surface, ship, and buoy observations overlaid onto the image:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#142 Postby KatDaddy » Sat May 19, 2012 1:58 pm

With storms now firing very close to the LLC I expect it will become our first TD or TS of 2012.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#143 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:00 pm

I should note that the surface center is displaced to the east of deep convection, which suggest and you can see is the light shear. so its not perfect, but the curved banding is visible in all areas of low, and the data shows we have a very small low. I'd say the current movement is to the wsw at a very slow pace.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#144 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2012 2:01 pm

Tropical Cyclone Formation Alert

All the pieces are there now for NHC to decide what to do. The TAFB classification, the TCFA,the ASCAT pass etc.


SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION ALERT//
WTNT21 KNGU 191800Z
RMKS/1. FORMATION OF A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE IS POSSIBLE
WITHIN A 100 NM RADIUS OF 32.4N 77.7W WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
AVAILABLE DATA DOES NOT JUSTIFY ISSUANCE OF A NUMBERED TROPICAL
CYCLONE WARNING AT THIS TIME. WINDS IN THE AREA ARE ESTIMATED
TO BE 30 TO 35 KNOTS. METSAT IMAGERY AT 191555Z INDICATES THAT A
CIRCULATION CENTER IS LOCATED NEAR 32.4N 77.7W. THE SYSTEM
DISPLAYS A WESTWARD DRIFT LESS THAN 05 KNOTS.
2. REMARKS: SATELLITE AND RADAR IMAGERY INDICATE THAT THE AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 120 MILES SOUTHEAST OF MYRTLE BEACH
SOUTH CAROLINA HAS BEGUN TO ACQUIRE TROPICAL CHARACTERISTICS. MODEL
GUIDANCE DEPICTS THE AREA OF INTEREST DRIFTING WESTWARD WITH
SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS PRESISTING NEAR THE CIRCULATION CENTER.
3. THIS ALERT WILL BE REISSUED, UPGRADED TO WARNING OR CANCELLED BY
201800Z.//
9312051912 324N 777W 30
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#145 Postby brunota2003 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:01 pm

cycloneye wrote:TAFB at T2.0

AL 93 201205191745 DVTS 3210N 7780W SAB EG 1515 ///// T DT=2.5 BO CBND MET=1.5 PT=1.5 FTBO CON

AL 93 201205191745 DVTS 3220N 7770W TAFB SS 2020 ///// T DT 2.0 BO CURVED BAND

This is a good example of how the Dvorak T numbers can underestimate the intensity of a cyclone:

19/1745 UTC 32.1N 77.8W T1.5/1.5 93L -- Atlantic

T1.5 means it was run as tropical, and the satellite estimates for strength are at 25 knots...whereas real world observations have shown winds of at least 29.1 knots (8-minute observing period), or if the ship reports are accurate, winds of at least 30 to 35 knots are present.
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#146 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:05 pm

If we're to get Alberto at 5 pm, watch for a Renumber over the next hour to hour and a half.
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#147 Postby brunota2003 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:08 pm

Just because there is a renumber does not mean there will be advisories. I've seen them do renumbers, just to decide in the end to cancel it. So nothing is official until an actual advisory is issued!
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#148 Postby RL3AO » Sat May 19, 2012 2:09 pm

brunota2003 wrote:Just because there is a renumber does not mean there will be advisories. I've seen them do renumbers, just to decide in the end to cancel it. So nothing is official until an actual advisory is issued!


Once or twice. Realistically a renumber means advisories.
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#149 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2012 2:09 pm

brunota2003 wrote:Just because there is a renumber does not mean there will be advisories. I've seen them do renumbers, just to decide in the end to cancel it. So nothing is official until an actual advisory is issued!


Bingo my friend to that!!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#150 Postby SouthDadeFish » Sat May 19, 2012 2:12 pm

Looks like 93L is shooting out a ton of outflow boundaries to the S over the past couple of hours... I wonder if the convection will collapse soon.
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#151 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:15 pm

I don't see any outflow boundaries...I do see inflow bands though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#152 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:17 pm

I dont really see outflow... maybe the blow off from the small CDO, that's sheared and fighting dry air on the east side.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... -long.html
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#153 Postby SouthDadeFish » Sat May 19, 2012 2:19 pm

I don't know how to post animated loops here, but if anyone could post the close-up visible loop from WeatherTap you can see a lot of low-level clouds moving away from the center on the south side.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L

#154 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2012 2:21 pm

invest_RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren


http://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inve ... 012012.ren
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#155 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:22 pm

Cool!
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#156 Postby RL3AO » Sat May 19, 2012 2:23 pm

Should be an interesting track forecast.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L:RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren

#157 Postby bg1 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:23 pm

Could this be the first storm of the season?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L:RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren

#158 Postby TexasF6 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:24 pm

Nice! :flag:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L:RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren

#159 Postby stormhunter7 » Sat May 19, 2012 2:25 pm

did they just renumber 93L?

EGIN
NHC_ATCF
invest_RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren
FSTDA
R
U
040
010
0000
201205191920
NONE
NOTIFY=ATRP
END
INVEST, AL, L, , , , , 01, 2012, DB, O, 2012051912, 9999999999, , , , , , WARNING, 1, AL012012
AL, 01, 2012051812, , BEST, 0, 334N, 764W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051818, , BEST, 0, 333N, 766W, 25, 1011, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051900, , BEST, 0, 331N, 768W, 25, 1010, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051906, , BEST, 0, 329N, 771W, 30, 1009, LO, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0,
AL, 01, 2012051912, , BEST, 0, 325N, 773W, 35, 1009, LO, 34, NEQ, 30, 0, 30, 30, 1012, 50, 40, 40, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S,
AL, 01, 2012051918, , BEST, 0, 323N, 776W, 40, 1007, LO, 34, NEQ, 40, 0, 30, 40, 1012, 60, 30, 50, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, M,
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Re: ATL: INVEST 93L: RENUMBER_al932012_al012012.ren

#160 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2012 2:28 pm

New Best Track with Tropical Storm Alberto

AL, 01, 2012051918, , BEST, 0, 323N, 776W, 40, 1007, TS


http://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inve ... 012.invest
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