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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#6521 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:14 am

GCANE wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hVfVxSYPxM


im listining to 810 AM from the Bahamas on the radio, sounds like most places plan on being open for business tomorrow morning
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#6522 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:15 am

Aric Dunn wrote:for all intensive purposes... SF should have had TS watches and well warnings put up.. being that well there is a whole lot of convection coming with TS force winds.. lol bad call by NHC in my own opinion ..


I don't see the point of that. None of the winds are sustained, and TS force winds are miles away.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search. ... t=A&time=3

Here is the answer to "what are the winds like in the bands offshore?" 25kts at lake worth inlet give or take. Also the current storms racing west to the everglades aren't hurricane related, they are boundary storms! (i.e. typical seabreeze style forcing). Now the cane is out there blowing but these storms winds don't come from the storm, they are convective along a line here. All the winds i'm seeing are squally and not very impressive. No reason to engage local emergency offices, roust the ham radio ops out of bed, or start planning to bring supplies in, when there is no danger to anyone.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Recon

#6523 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:15 am

000
URNT15 KWBC 251408
NOAA3 2009A IRENE HDOB 32 20110825
135830 2352N 07649W 7516 02481 9998 +138 +117 241051 052 037 000 00
135900 2353N 07650W 7517 02479 0000 +135 +121 239052 053 038 001 00
135930 2355N 07652W 7518 02476 9999 +134 +121 238050 051 038 002 00
140000 2356N 07653W 7516 02477 0002 +131 +120 241050 051 038 001 00
140030 2357N 07655W 7517 02475 0005 +126 +119 245050 051 037 002 00
140100 2358N 07656W 7519 02472 0003 +126 +125 244050 050 036 001 03
140130 2359N 07658W 7519 02472 9999 +130 +126 247049 050 036 000 00
140200 2400N 07700W 7517 02474 9998 +132 +119 249050 050 036 000 00
140230 2401N 07701W 7517 02475 9994 +138 +113 250051 051 035 000 00
140300 2402N 07703W 7491 02504 9989 +141 +105 253052 052 035 000 00
140330 2403N 07705W 7370 02640 9987 +134 +098 254050 051 035 000 00
140400 2404N 07706W 7317 02702 9986 +131 +096 256051 052 038 001 00
140430 2405N 07708W 7318 02699 9985 +131 +097 256051 052 036 001 00
140500 2407N 07709W 7320 02695 9987 +127 +104 260049 051 036 000 03
140530 2408N 07711W 7319 02694 9982 +128 +110 262048 049 040 000 00
140600 2410N 07712W 7318 02693 9983 +124 +116 260048 048 044 001 00
140630 2412N 07713W 7321 02688 9977 +126 +122 260045 048 047 002 00
140700 2414N 07713W 7317 02691 9978 +125 +120 267048 050 048 001 00
140730 2416N 07715W 7318 02687 9978 +123 +108 271047 048 047 001 00
140800 2418N 07716W 7319 02684 9974 +126 +102 273045 046 044 000 00
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Recon

#6524 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:16 am

000
URNT15 KNHC 251413
AF300 1909A IRENE HDOB 52 20110825
140330 2547N 07635W 6965 02745 9523 +152 //// 160039 043 044 004 05
140400 2546N 07636W 6963 02739 9512 +156 //// 164029 031 035 004 05
140430 2546N 07638W 6968 02727 9504 +157 +155 155022 025 029 005 03
140500 2545N 07640W 6967 02725 9504 +155 //// 124011 015 019 002 05
140530 2544N 07642W 6969 02724 9507 +151 //// 084004 006 015 003 01
140600 2543N 07643W 6966 02731 9517 +146 //// 006007 010 015 003 01
140630 2542N 07645W 6963 02740 9509 +159 +157 352016 018 017 003 03
140700 2541N 07647W 6969 02742 9519 +157 +156 355022 025 031 003 03
140730 2541N 07649W 6961 02759 9537 +150 //// 003029 033 035 002 01
140800 2541N 07651W 6975 02756 9551 +150 //// 357036 037 036 002 01
140830 2541N 07653W 6966 02778 9559 +154 +152 355039 040 038 002 00
140900 2541N 07654W 6967 02789 9573 +150 +150 354039 039 037 001 00
140930 2541N 07656W 6966 02797 9584 +149 +148 353038 039 035 003 00
141000 2541N 07658W 6966 02808 9585 +160 +145 351042 046 036 003 00
141030 2541N 07700W 6963 02818 9595 +158 +143 353046 046 042 001 00
141100 2541N 07702W 6968 02824 9606 +160 +141 357055 057 050 005 00
141130 2541N 07704W 6965 02837 9610 +166 +139 359059 062 059 003 00
141200 2541N 07706W 6974 02832 9631 +152 +139 356067 068 057 004 00
141230 2541N 07707W 6967 02854 9666 +132 //// 356068 068 057 005 01
141300 2541N 07709W 6971 02858 9684 +127 //// 000066 068 060 002 01
$$
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Pressure 950mb. Eye looks to be quite large on obs.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#6525 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:16 am

Anyone here have a good link for a high-res SST map of the East U.S. Coast?
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#6526 Postby Meso » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:17 am

She looked worse 4-5 hours ago, and even when looking rugged recon measured over 115kt at FL when in it. She definitely looks improved to me since then. Not looking great, but does appear to be on the recovering phase of the EWRC.

Latest vis shot looks like the eye may be trying to clear out too.
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#6527 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:18 am

Zoomed in radar loop, most likely the circulation in the mid levels because of the distance away from radar site.

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#6528 Postby HPC » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:19 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
jhpigott wrote:
NDG wrote:Wow, 50 knot wind gust so far at Jupiter Inlet this morning, where are the Tropical Storm Warnings for at least the immediate coast!

http://www.evsjupiter.com/weather/summary.gif


what does 53knots equate to in mph?


58 kt = about 67 mph.

And note that this equipment is located on the roof of a 15 story condo among all the equipment. Always registers higher than those of us on the ground.
I am located 2.4 miles from the coast and have these readings:
09:00 - 10:00
Current(mph):06.0 Current Gust(mph) 11.0 Max Gust(mph):24.2 at 09:06 1Hour Avg(mph):09.1 Rainfall(in):0.06
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#6529 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:21 am

dolebot_Broward_NW wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:for all intensive purposes... SF should have had TS watches and well warnings put up.. being that well there is a whole lot of convection coming with TS force winds.. lol bad call by NHC in my own opinion ..


I don't see the point of that. None of the winds are sustained, and TS force winds are miles away.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/radial_search. ... t=A&time=3

Here is the answer to "what are the winds like in the bands offshore?" 25kts at lake worth inlet give or take. Also the current storms racing west to the everglades aren't hurricane related, they are boundary storms! (i.e. typical seabreeze style forcing). Now the cane is out there blowing but these storms winds don't come from the storm, they are convective along a line here. All the winds i'm seeing are squally and not very impressive. No reason to engage local emergency offices, roust the ham radio ops out of bed, or start planning to bring supplies in, when there is no danger to anyone.

exactly. save your energy south florida. this one's not yours...but september and october are coming...
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#6530 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:22 am

deltadog03 wrote:She doesn't look too good this am.



Yea, I'm starting to think that her intensification phase is over with. Conditions are far from idea now, so in my opinion, she could be on the decline strength wise from here. She might still be a hurricane though as she moves up north towards the north coast.


**The above is purely my opinion, not to be looked at as factual. Please keep tabs with the NHC for facts and advice.**
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#6531 Postby abacorun » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:22 am

According to local mets we should be getting an eye wall pass about 3pm today around Treasure Cay about 30 miles north of us. Lot of tree damage and no power but still have cell and internet.
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#6532 Postby lothianjavert » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:23 am

I agree about most seeming completely unconcerned. I live on the eastern shore of MD and work in PA. No one (in my office or at home) here seems that terribly concerned. The radio stations this morning were calling for scattered rain showers on Sunday with maybe some strong wind gusts. It is being played down publicly, and most people in this area are not familiar with hurricanes and really don't know what to expect/do, other than that they don't expect it to be able to affect them. On the flipside, here at work, they are pulling out all the emergency equipment- particularly the large vehicles (disaster response units, etc.) and checking them over, testing, and making sure they are ready, same goes for the generators. So, preparations are being made, just rather quietly at this point.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Recon

#6533 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:23 am

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Re: Re:

#6534 Postby hurricaneCW » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:25 am

ConvergenceZone wrote:
deltadog03 wrote:She doesn't look too good this am.



Yea, I'm starting to think that her intensification phase is over with. Conditions are far from idea now, so in my opinion, she could be on the decline strength wise from here. She might still be a hurricane though as she moves up north towards the north coast.


Maybe but I'm going to side with the NHC on this one, the environment still seems pretty good to me and the EWRC is almost over.
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#6535 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:25 am

000
URNT15 KWBC 251418
NOAA3 2009A IRENE HDOB 33 20110825
140830 2419N 07717W 7320 02683 9972 +127 +103 271042 042 045 001 00
140900 2421N 07718W 7318 02682 9968 +129 +102 273045 046 045 001 00
140930 2422N 07720W 7319 02681 9965 +131 +098 275044 046 045 003 00
141000 2423N 07721W 7319 02681 9966 +128 +108 275045 047 044 003 03
141030 2425N 07723W 7320 02676 9967 +125 +114 277042 043 045 002 00
141100 2426N 07724W 7321 02672 9963 +126 +108 278044 045 043 001 00
141130 2427N 07726W 7322 02668 9959 +128 +102 280045 045 044 001 00
141200 2428N 07727W 7240 02766 9958 +123 +104 289048 049 042 001 00
141230 2428N 07729W 7124 02901 9958 +117 +092 291048 049 042 001 00
141300 2429N 07731W 6993 03058 9958 +108 +092 287048 049 044 001 00
141330 2430N 07733W 6830 03245 9949 +094 +098 282047 049 044 002 00
141400 2430N 07735W 6678 03433 9948 +082 +085 286045 045 043 001 03
141430 2431N 07736W 6513 03639 9952 +069 +067 287044 045 /// /// 03
141500 2432N 07738W 6385 03804 9946 +064 +053 286046 046 /// /// 03
141530 2432N 07740W 6255 03975 9941 +058 +043 288045 045 /// /// 03
141600 2433N 07742W 6095 04187 9936 +049 +028 292046 047 /// /// 03
141630 2434N 07744W 5946 04390 9937 +036 +019 295048 049 /// /// 03
141700 2434N 07746W 5832 04548 9936 +027 +013 296048 049 /// /// 03
141730 2435N 07748W 5710 04720 9930 +018 +018 296050 052 /// /// 03
141800 2436N 07750W 5615 04856 9924 +013 +006 298049 050 /// /// 03


NOAA3 headed home.
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Re: Re:

#6536 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:25 am

CrazyC83 wrote:
jhpigott wrote:
NDG wrote:Wow, 50 knot wind gust so far at Jupiter Inlet this morning, where are the Tropical Storm Warnings for at least the immediate coast!

http://www.evsjupiter.com/weather/summary.gif


what does 53knots equate to in mph?


58 kt = about 67 mph.


Just noting that these winds are NOT sustained winds from the cane. The onshore winds are causing seabreeze style storms. The downdrafts from these can have massive winds. Nothing that the actual winds from the cane are weak.

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Note the big red blowup in a line of storm right over jupiter inlet.

also NWS produced a Significant Weather Event for W tri-county SFL. The storms are locally producing high winds, but the storm itself is moving at 20mph.

http://inws.wrh.noaa.gov/weather/alertinfo/3742908
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#6537 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:26 am

000
URNT15 KNHC 251423
AF300 1909A IRENE HDOB 53 20110825
141330 2541N 07711W 6963 02880 9690 +132 +131 359062 063 060 003 00
141400 2541N 07713W 6963 02893 9705 +132 +127 360059 060 059 002 00
141430 2541N 07715W 6978 02886 9723 +126 +122 360060 061 055 001 00
141500 2541N 07717W 6967 02908 9732 +128 +117 357064 065 054 000 03
141530 2541N 07719W 6966 02918 9743 +125 +113 358065 065 054 001 00
141600 2541N 07720W 6967 02926 9760 +120 +111 001064 066 055 002 00
141630 2541N 07722W 6970 02929 9764 +123 +109 357062 063 054 002 00
141700 2541N 07724W 6967 02938 9772 +125 +107 359062 063 054 001 00
141730 2541N 07726W 6962 02953 9790 +113 +108 000060 061 053 002 00
141800 2541N 07728W 6974 02947 9800 +115 +107 360058 059 053 002 00
141830 2541N 07730W 6963 02965 9809 +114 +102 356054 055 052 002 00
141900 2541N 07732W 6967 02969 9812 +119 +100 357052 052 049 002 00
141930 2541N 07734W 6961 02980 9816 +119 +096 359049 050 050 001 03
142000 2541N 07736W 6967 02981 9827 +117 +094 001051 052 048 001 00
142030 2541N 07738W 6969 02985 9831 +118 +091 357053 053 049 001 00
142100 2541N 07740W 6968 02991 9849 +109 +093 360051 053 048 002 00
142130 2541N 07742W 6967 02996 9860 +102 +101 002051 051 049 002 00
142200 2541N 07745W 6966 03003 9866 +101 //// 003051 051 053 005 05
142230 2541N 07747W 6970 03003 9871 +103 +096 002051 051 055 003 03
142300 2541N 07749W 6967 03011 9880 +101 +094 003048 048 052 002 03
$$
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#6538 Postby ozonepete » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:26 am

wxman57 wrote:Anyone here have a good link for a high-res SST map of the East U.S. Coast?



This is the best I know - covers all of east coast

http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_data/?nothumbs=0&product=sst&region=capehat
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#6539 Postby clfenwi » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:26 am

wxman57 wrote:Anyone here have a good link for a high-res SST map of the East U.S. Coast?


http://polar.ncep.noaa.gov/sst/ophi/nwatl_sst_ophi0.png

is the first that springs to mind. I seem to remember a Navy website having a good analysis as well, though I haven't been able to come across it...yet.
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#6540 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:27 am

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